Built-in Parsers

[BigRed5392]

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and imo they was being equally rude :P same for you. No one has a right to assume the stance of others, or pick fights with people who has different experiences.

From my past mmo, and endgame experience + coil + extremes most of my deaths had been due to healers not healing. I also never said ppl are immune to mistakes, but if people lack communication they are partly at fault for a run going south. People just don't wanna be told they are at fault. They rather point fingers.

I'm not being passive aggressive. I met ppl in many mmo with similar mindset, and most of the time they are rude. I personally find a few of the post are rude for no reason. Some of yours some of theirs, some of other peoples.

Rude as in claiming I don't run content cuz I don't got mounts. Claim I didn't play 30 mmo the long term, which is easy in this day and age.



People like duelgunner who stuff apparently that my posts go above their head. I think you guys need to take a steo back and SLOWLY read your posts. you guys do come off aggressive, like heaven forbid people not want parser. People who don't, have experience mostly negative from the people who used them. And you lot are not helping with how some of your posts come off.

I just gave my 2 cents, and instead of a discussion on the how/why im just told I'm wrong "because" . How is that a discussion? Maybe stop assuming peoples mindset and actually talk instead of assuming.

This is all anecdotal; not quantitative evidence. And whether or not it occurs in other games does not necessarily mean that it will or will not occur in this game if a built-in parser were to be implemented in high-end content where parser use actually matters (there's very little reason to have parsers in dungeons or even 24-mans because the content is relatively easy, and usually does not have the same types of DPS checks or rDPS requirements that Savage or Ex content does). If these were restrictions set in place in a PF group by the PF leader, they have the right to set whatever restrictions they want in their party. That's why PF has all those fancy options when you create one. In DF, any clear cut cases of harassment will be properly dealt with if reported. That isn't going to change just because a parser is a publicly condoned/built-in feature.

You're right in saying that some people do not need such a tool at their disposal, because they are only going to use it negatively and paint those that use the tool for "good" in that same negative light; people usually tend to pay more attention to the bad, and use it to generalize concepts as a whole. One person was a jerk and used a parser to do it? Now suddenly everyone who parses is also a jerk--because one guy was. But you blame that person for being a jerk; you don't blame the tool, nor do you generalize others who use said tool. It's not the parser's fault someone was being a twat. They would probably be a twat without a parser anyways. Because that's sadly how people are. But again, you blame the person, not the tool. (Note that I use the general "you" in the latter portion of this paragraph; it's not meant to imply you, specifically.)

you know you can be less rude about replying to him and it isn't much an anecdotal, as a few people in this thread have had similar experience. Being dismissive over the experience of others doesn't help foster a good discussion.

DCUO has a built in parser, and imo it ruined the community. Instead of working as a team, people solo'ed trying to be number 1.

My g/f and I quit wow (at different times) simple due the community require you have a parser.

My g.f got lvl 46 warlock, and tried joining a guild to meet ppl. Every she asked guild required her to DL a list of add on, she explained she wasn't allowed to DL addons due to sharing a pc, and every reply she got back was "your lazy" "you're just looking for a carry"

I quit for similar reasons, the community wasn't great and too many requirements for something simple. WoWcrendor has several joke videos about it lol.

Fights in many MMO has a DPS check while handling mechics. You either have
A: A DPS who fail mechanics or B; A dps whol fail to do enough damage or worse one failing both. If a person is doing 3% less than the rest which is doable in many fights in the mmo's ive played, they never got kicked. Honestly we talking drastic 20-30% less than people, hell some people do less than tanks.
I like how someone said they played FFXI and had a lot of toxic people with parsers, yet I was on ps2 and did the hardest fights in the game. I played BnS and Gw2 as well, no toxic people with parsers there that I have witness. Honestly 3% is easily doable in many fights and you have to kinda prove yourself there people get kicked for lets say doing 200-300 dps less than the other dps in most farm groups or statics. This shit happens a lot and nobody is getting kicked. If a person is doing 700-1k less than the third dps or second, they are bad.

it really depends on the ff11 server, and when you played parser were not a huge thing around ps2 NA launch, it was around 2006-2008 that parser started ti be a thing with windower. and 2008-2011 with abyssea is went people were extremely cruel about them. raging in people for not gear swapping, even if they had no gear to do so. This is just during exp groups too. till the mentality switch to large leech fests using dungeon books.

cherry picking

please look up what cherry picking means As well as assumption.

You are kinda proving the point the the community around the tool are very negative. Also for the communication part. That is not the best way to communicate. You can't give advice by belittling the person, or calling them out.

"hey, <player 1> i main <player 1's job> want some tips to increase damage? then wait for a yes or no. If he/she says no don't press it. communication =/= forcing advice down ppl throat.


also that is not saying the tool is bad, the community around the tool is bad.

When? I played this game for years and parser never killed it for me. I was also in one of the best end game linkshells including Blugatr back the time. Please explain.
I also played on ps2 btw weird I never got kicked from my linkshells and did every single end game content...

we was on garuda >> lakshmi.

She also played on asura My g/f mostly played it, and showed it to me after the fact. She had a brief stint in bluegartr and saw some nasty drama in it as well.

She played ff14 from 2004-2011. I tried it around 2009-2011. the parser stuff didn't happen on garuda still 2008/2009. It got worst in 2010 with the "gear swap or kick" mentality in exp pt/meripo pt.

in fact my g.f got perma ban from ff11 forums just for saying "i don't like gear swapping it looks stupid" (i saw it, it did lol ppl blinking in and out every skills)

in the endgame shells we was in, they put numbers over skill. It got old, too much drams over loot drops, gear swapping and forced voip use got too much.