Built-in Parsers

[Dualgunner]

Do you even fflogs bruh
Sure the leaderboard itself could be described as that but the logs themselves detail *everything*. What all was everyone hit by? How much healing was going out at what points? Who died to what, how, and where they were standing. It logs buff uptimes, debuffs aquired, dot uptimes, and allows for detailed comparisons between player performances.

[BigRed5392]

Do you even fflogs bruh
Sure the leaderboard itself could be described as that but the logs themselves detail *everything*. What all was everyone hit by? How much healing was going out at what points? Who died to what, how, and where they were standing. It logs buff uptimes, debuffs aquired, dot uptimes, and allows for detailed comparisons between player performances.

i play on ps4, so no. I just looked to see if I was ever parsed.

stats, numbers, skills used saying how ppl dies is meaningless with out visual context or party chat. People can be vindictive and LET people die over the stupidest reasons.

context matters in all stats, someone on zeplas fflogs satire explanation video used sports stats to back up their claims, yet scouts don't just look at a spread sheet and hire ppl, they go to several games to see the context of those numbers. How the player interacts with his team, how is he getting those numbers.

visual context is not present on fflogs, just numbers, skills, and stats. It doesn't paint a picture how well that person plays in a group. Just numbers of 1 fight.

people have good and bad days. if you look at my faust parse you think i suck as a sch, simply because my damage is low. Yet if you saw me in the fight you may think otherwise.

i just pulled up the site a bit ago, not much info to back up the numbers imo. feel free to look me up, my info isn't hidden.


found a void ark parse. number is a dark blue.

like i said im on ps4, not once in any content someone told me I'm bad. Not once was i ever to blame for a wipe. And tbh as far as I can tell i'm barely parsed.

Idm if someone states i need to improve, just lemi know what I need to work on, and I'll work on it. as of right now, no one has yet to complain, and im barely parsed so im getting the feeling not everyone parses, or is just not posting my numbers. lol

[Bourne_Endeavor]

visual context is not present on fflogs

FFlogs has a built in replay feature that allows you to essentially watch a reenactment of the fight, thus enabling to not only see when and what caused deaths but precisely how it led up to that moment. Furthermore, if a person is purposely being vindictive and letting people die, it'll show on their poor heal management. Put simply, FFlogs is exceptionally thorough when used properly.

[Khemorex]

FFlogs has a built in replay feature that allows you to essentially watch a reenactment of the fight, thus enabling to not only see when and what caused deaths but precisely how it led up to that moment. Furthermore, if a person is purposely being vindictive and letting people die, it'll show on their poor heal management. Put simply, FFlogs is exceptionally thorough when used properly.

you mean its basicly a cheat tool that does the work for you ^^

[akaneakki]

you mean its basicly a cheat tool that does the work for you ^^

You are one of the biggest trolls on the forum and it if you want to trigger people, try harder.

[BigRed5392]

FFlogs has a built in replay feature that allows you to essentially watch a reenactment of the fight, thus enabling to not only see when and what caused deaths but precisely how it led up to that moment. Furthermore, if a person is purposely being vindictive and letting people die, it'll show on their poor heal management. Put simply, FFlogs is exceptionally thorough when used properly.

I stated several times the tool if used well can be good.

and a SIMULATION of a fight is not the same, as watching the fight. party log needs to be taken into account.

its like trying ti simulate a chemical reaction on a pc and passing it off as tried and tested research. When you need physical evidence.

[Dualgunner]

That data is meaningless if you're just playing epeen. Get your head out of the gutter: looking back on data in past fights has helped my group optimize and barrel past mechanics before. Being able to pinpoint exact times and places where healing can be laxed, dps can be pushed, and when to play it safe is invaluable.

Of the two of us, the one on the anti parser side seems more obsessed with using it strictly as an epeen stroker. Just an observation.

[BigRed5392]

That data is meaningless if you're just playing epeen. Get your head out of the gutter: looking back on data in past fights has helped my group optimize and barrel past mechanics before. Being able to pinpoint exact times and places where healing can be laxed, dps can be pushed, and when to play it safe is invaluable.

Of the two of us, the one on the anti parser side seems more obsessed with using it strictly as an epeen stroker. Just an observation.

im not stroking my epeen. XD jeezum crow, you need to look up the meaning of context, if you think im being rude or something.

If you and your buddies use it great, you have visual context to back up numbers. you are using it correctly as a helpful of self improvement.

What I'm talking about is just straight up look up someones parse, and judging them. No visual context to back up the numbers.

Im not even anti parse, I just dislike how rude people can be over fflogs parses. If statics use it as a tool, great you use it for the right purpose, not everyone does.

More often then not people use it to BLINDLY judge others over numbers with no visual context. stats/number are meaningless with out that visual context.

I see it often in the forums when people link other peoples log and use it to insult them.


ps i have 0 idea what the dark blue number means anyway. I don't parse (ps4) no one in my fc uses a parse. Only found 2 fights that i have been parsed on 1 was a sch 1 was my smn.
my sch is not well geared as i don't play it often, i just did the fight to help someone. My void arc one could be one of many runs i've done, so no clue.
What im trying to say is, that VISUAL context matters, not just numbers on a spread sheet. I ways also just letting you know i have nothing to hide as well, feel free to look me up on fflogs.

also "get you head out of the gutter" is a phrase that you are not using it correctly. just saying.

idc if ppl parse, idc if statics use it , idm being parsed. Just don't use it to attack others. Don;t use it to pick a fight and force people to play like you, you can't.

Its rude and wrong, no one is forcing you to play with people not of your mindset, you just gotta deal with the consequences. If you have an issue with how others play, set up a pf. Make a content linkshell.

Which goes for everyone, no one should be forcing mindsets and play style on others, and using a "good" (not my opinion) tool to bettle others ruins that tools usefulness.

I've played an mmo with a built in parser, and it did nothing but made ppl act less like a team. And i rather not see that here, i rarely see ppl work as a team, just infighting, blame game and vindictive attitudes.

what i found to be more funny, is my g/f character doesn't even exist on fflog XD she runs content more then me, and is more of a hardcore player then I am. Guess no one in her 4-5 years of playing parsed her.

[Dualgunner]

Well that's just part and parcel with anything isn't it? There's always the idiot who tries to hammer a screw. It just doesn't help when people come around saying that the only use for a hammer is a screw because that's what they see people using it for, and then declaring hammers as useless and even the people using them for nails should have them taken away.

[Dualgunner]

Can you please quote one or two times when an fflogs was specifically posted on the forums to mock someone? I use the forums a lot and haven't seen it, but I'm not omniscient.