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  1. #31
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    Hhaven's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chango View Post
    I do know what you mean...
    I worried about the same thing, peeps coming into the game with so many closed communities on the server.

    The Solution:
    Adopt a Newb

    A couple of weeks ago, while mindlessly crafting, i noticed a shout from someone saying "I need a friend! Everyone left "
    Then the person popped up on my screen while i was running towards the wards, stopped and talked to him. I then made a linkshell so he could communicate with me easily. At this pont... we need to keep as many peeps playing the game as possible, so always lend a helping hand.
    Bravo, my friend. I am surprised to run into people who have just started this week or started 2 or 3 weeks ago. I try to help out the best I can and I hope everyone can also do the same. FFXI had the greatest community I have ever experienced in a MMO and I want to make Eorzea my home for many years, just as Vanadiel was once my home. Great post Biggs and thank you for bringing this subject up.
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  2. #32
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    Public service announcement:

    The past form of 'pay' is 'paid', not 'payed.'
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Having a sense of entitlement just because we are paying for the game is the wrong way to go about it. I post so SE hears my ideas and those who agree with me. I don't post because I think I know best for the game, I just know what I would enjoy.

    The only thing SE "Owes" us is to try the best they can to bring FFXIV back from the brink.
    this was probably what i wanted to reply about first too, also to add that everyone is still on the forums that still not paying. i think it's a full 30days or something b4 we are removed? by then half of them probably will try the dungeons on .21? either way ..past that

    i agree at what you say in some of it, i think we need to create a new edicate in game, no leaving groups without warning or replacing, use the search function (though the search is still kinda useless, they should add a way to lfg while in party still for one thing) also linkshells right now are a joke to me, everyone is running them like ffxi linkshells but there is 0 full linkshell endgame. this type of shells are really how guilds work in other games where your all puging endgame inside your own shell only. and leaders make you only run with your linkshell even though it's obvious there isn't room for everyone in every run ...derp 8man dungeons.. less you only running 8man linkshells. lots of problems with this game and how it is being run but most of them will disapear soon as a real population is on the servers and ps3 launches an real endgame type stuff starts coming out.

    as for baby'ing new players, i think new players just need to gather together just as we did. they need to take the same time it took everyone else to get where they are going. i say just stop taking lowbies into a full 50linkshell and all is well. someone will lead them all, is better then them being scattered threw linkshells, it's like people who play 10hrs a day being scattered into 40shells with casuals, they would of been better off in one ls(like hnmls in ffxi lol).

    when it comes to gear in wards i kinda agree but it's not really new players buying them ...i mean how many new players come into the game really. it's just people that how you say ...feel entitled to cheap stuff. most players can afford it right now, it's just that the low pop keeps these prices high ...it's not like in other mmo's this is happening. it's a problem with empty servers. it should be fixed by merging. most games start off high in price and goes down, in this game it's just not going down cause no one crafting them ...u can spend your days making them for lowbies but really it's a bit much to ask of peoples time. that's my opinion though. in ffxi one of the only few rules in linkshell was no begging for gils in linkshell lol, and that included crafts. no one really ask for things like they do in this game(other then abjurations and stuff), though it has slowed down a lot since launch when it was empty wards and needed to ask people. if you can't afford arrows you shouldn't be a archer, sounds stupid but that is how i think of it in this game.

    last thoughts are in ffxi ...i did 99% of my party grinds with different people in every party. 700days of game play, 8 rank 75's all different people. not statics, not just linkshell people, almost never linkshell players actually. lots of people of other languages as well on top of that. with ease of population, of search function, and people just rolled like that in that game, it wasn't all being done in linkshell. in warhammer after it's first year the game died, and all of sudden nothing was done shouting, you could shout and get a dungeon in 5mins going first year then never again after that, it became hoping you were part of the 6people of the 8-11 that can run it and were active(or leaving to find a new guild that hopefully had room for you). and that type of stuff don't cut it and it's exactly what is happened to ffxiv. and it's not worth paying for.

    also while i think you guys might start trends in the next year of playing ...i think the mass flood of players at 2.0 might change everything you do if it don't fit the game at 2.0. like vent for all endgame, people will just flood to the ps3 run shells and over power in any endgame that has competition in it(that is if people dont' want vent...example). but the things you do create as you said i hope are for the good of the game and all it's player base not just the few. and even though i'm usually always in the few category i can't stand being around a game that pans out horribly community wise. i quit b4 even entering moggle fight, and i blame the community and i blame the population and how linkshells are being run. this game won't stand a chance if you guys keep at it the way you are but i blame the population ..it just gives less people more power to run it very badly.
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  4. #34
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    Im on board with this, as my main jobs have always been crafting I will be making low lv equipment for new people at very little to no price as i have been doing from the start. I played ffxi for 7 yrs and was fortunate enough to find a ls who was happy to teach me the ropes of the basics and we learned the advanced parts together, ill never forget the wonderful friends i made in ffxi and hope to do again in ffxiv!! I am of the mind to stay positive no matter what and I belive when 2.0 is released this game is going to get a Huge influx of loyal customers and ill be there to help welcome them into the game world I have been growing to enjoy over the past year ^^.
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  5. #35
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    damn, where's my grappling hook. this thread has so many walls of text.
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    "Unbelievable wipes... indescribable failings. Whining, bitching, rage quitting - through an endless party find." - Doho, A Whole New Whorl

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    The few thousand of us left that have chosen to brave the coming months out with SE are all here.
    Was it really this bad? I expected quite a few people to not go along with the sub fee but are we really down to "a few thousand?"
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  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by acidmax View Post
    I totaly subscribe what Biggs said... but theres no way to prevent it.
    The way i see, the only solution is a total reset. And i hope they do it!
    Got to love when a poster with a max level class of 12 cheers for a data wipe, so we all have to start over. No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Got to love when a poster with a max level class of 12 cheers for a data wipe, so we all have to start over. No thanks.
    of course, what do you expect.

    whats funny is even if it happened the gear would be super expensive

    how quickly some of us forget launch when everyone tried to make the most of everything they had cuz their was so little at the time

  9. #39
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    THIS THREAD SERVES NO PURPOSE! BLAH BLAHBLAH

    Oh, wait.... Sorry pulled a Jynx.
    lol, Foreal OP! I share your sentiments and it was a very nice well written post.... until the train crash called JYNX, roflcoptor. *prepares to fly away*

    ~Show Compassion, dont show your a$$ until someone else shows theirs!~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
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    The past form of 'pay' is 'paid', not 'payed.'
    Heil Analheim
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