No, not another smn hype or hate thread - just wanna talk about stats after 4.1. : )

[Neela]

Hey there,

i lately followed the worlds first grps on their Bahamut-progress and analysed some gear/stats of the top fflog smns. I noticed a slight difference in stat priority I am used to follow referred to a lot of reddit and similar threads for weights.

Most of the top smns have a fair amount of det (around 1000-1200) paid by less crit - dh still the main dmg stat though. On average they look something like that: DH/Crit/Det/SS | 1900 | 1470 | 1260 | 850 | (some of them are using vit accessories for progress I guess so I don't consider vit-melts at all for this example)

I guess holding ss as low as possible is still a thing like in HW just without a certain cap for the extra ruin. But like I said im lost when it comes to det... after SB release all the tests and theories were about a balance and a breaking point between dh & crit. like that thesis if their amount hits 3k+ = crit > dh. etc.

So i was playing around with ariyalas-tool to see what else could be interesting. My main is currently in o4s progress (which is paused for fc shinryu farms atm) - so I calculated without the book & armor parts. I came up with some different builds which might look interesting on paper but for the fact im playing on ps4 I haven't parsed and compared them yet nor will I most probably have the time/chance to do so all by myself.


DH/Crit/Det/SS | 1765 | 1765 | 0680 | 1300 | ilvl 340 – http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/13QBY (My current build)
DH/Crit/Det/SS | 1900 | 1470 | 1260 | 0850 | ilvl o4s – http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/13QY0 (Avarage fflogs (progression?) build))

Non mainstream alternatives:
DH/Crit/Det/SS | 1900 | 0700 | 0900 | 1900 | ilvl 340 – http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/13QBF
DH/Crit/Det/SS | 1600 | 1900 | 0870 | 1070 | ilvl 339 – http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/13QBP
DH/Crit/Det/SS | 0730 | 1630 | 1390 | 1660 | ilvl 339 – http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/13QBM
DH/Crit/Det/SS | 1340 | 2360 | 0750 | 1000 | ilvl 336 – http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/13QBW

yet I know I was talking about raising det somehow but also ss got my theoretical attention although we nearly don't have any cast time for hard casts at all anymore... we won't benefit in the matter of casting itself but I wonder how much impact high ss would have on dots and more important while Bahamut is out for his WWs... (in best case even with Asts arrow card support...)

tldr: 1st question: how relevant is det nowadays compared to crit (in progress/endgame) and 2nd are there any smns out who go with a complete different build? And if why do u do so? (doesn't matter if raider or casual pve player)?

so long
Neela ^__^ /