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    The general lack of consideration in gear design for tails



    I would have thought simply making the drape shorter (waist length) would have been a vast improvement. Although my honest opinion is that the drape is weird and this set would have looked so much better without the front and back drapes.



    I have long given up on the devs adding in extra touches for tails, you stopped doing that very early on. But now you don't seem to care at all. If it looks fine on the Hyur it's fine and tail and ear races get absolutely no consideration. You got weird ears and tails, it's your fate to clip the hell out of everything.

    Fine, let the tail clip through pants and skirts, but can the neglect stop somewhere reasonable?
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    SE has pretty much come out and set that they couldn't care less about clipping issues with gear. Personally I think it's shameful that they haven't implemented a proper physics system like, oh, most every other supposedly-AAA title I've played over the last several years, but you're right, the least they could do is take character tails / ears into consideration when designing gear.

    Alas, I suspect they'll continue to cater to the players wanting more content rather than better content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    SE has pretty much come out and set that they couldn't care less about clipping issues with gear. Personally I think it's shameful that they haven't implemented a proper physics system like, oh, most every other supposedly-AAA title I've played over the last several years, but you're right, the least they could do is take character tails / ears into consideration when designing gear.

    Alas, I suspect they'll continue to cater to the players wanting more content rather than better content.
    Some clipping in their system is unavoidable, which is why they don't really care....

    But how can you make races with ear shapes and tails and not at least attempt to work with those.

    This gear design however is definitely not friendly towards tails, mostly because the ....well its not a cape....but the back flap that makes the clipping worse.
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    My Au Ra horns clip like heal with the caster top, like it looks sooooo cool but T.T I hate clipping
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    Well after sooo many complain bug wise, housing, nerfing, clothing is probably lower on their to do list. Game designing and creating gear is not as easy as everyone thinks, It takes time and unless you do it you really don't know how much people grind their teeth over the dumbest of things and complains. Making a big deal over clipping issues that most people ignore or don't really affect game flow is just well...petty.
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    The sad part is that the ARR gear still retained little race specific details, I suspect the reason being that most of the equip came from 1.0 where they cared a great lot for such small details. Its rather disheartening to see such things getting lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Game designing and creating gear is not as easy as everyone thinks...petty.
    Well if you haven't noticed, they clearly realize they should hide the ears on the hat, and takes the time to hide the ears. But no, they cannot make the drape/flip shorter on the back in the first place during concept design.

    It shows that they have made a conscious decision to simply pretend tails don't exist when they design gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vhailor View Post
    SE has pretty much come out and set that they couldn't care less about clipping issues with gear. Personally I think it's shameful that they haven't implemented a proper physics system like, oh, most every other supposedly-AAA title I've played over the last several years, but you're right, the least they could do is take character tails / ears into consideration when designing gear.

    Alas, I suspect they'll continue to cater to the players wanting more content rather than better content.
    I'd say most people like variety, the people who complain about clipping are just nitpicking, I'd hate it if we only got 1-2 new looks per year just because they would have to test every single skin in every single possible scenario to keep patching it over and over.
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    Any game with characters with tails, there will always be clipping. The developers don't want to spend the time to fix or edit the armor even though it would probably be a simple fix. I have just come to ignore it, but I'm also used to games like GW2 where the Charr tails just clip though some gear as well. (then again a lot of armor doesn't have that problem in that game but I'm not going on about that.)

    Though I agree they could at least try to do something, maybe put the tail under the coat or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    Some clipping in their system is unavoidable, which is why they don't really care....

    But how can you make races with ear shapes and tails and not at least attempt to work with those.

    This gear design however is definitely not friendly towards tails, mostly because the ....well its not a cape....but the back flap that makes the clipping worse.
    Quote Originally Posted by Powe View Post
    My Au Ra horns clip like heal with the caster top, like it looks sooooo cool but T.T I hate clipping
    Sadly don't have 4.1 dungeon equipment, but managed to try caster chest on.




    My horns are slightly clipping with the collar and I'm fine with that since my hair is pretty much just going straight through it.

    But tail clipping would have been easy to solve by shortening that "drape".
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