Stop calling it a beta

[Altera]

I personally dont look at XIV as Beta. When it comes to MMOs, there is always changes going on. Just look at a finished game like WoW, each expansion or content patch usually gets released with loads of bugs etc even after 2-3 months of PTR/Beta testing.

Patches released in XIV seems to be very smooth and very bugfree ^^ I see 2.0 as an expansion

[TheVedis]

It's hardly 100% complete. Even Yoshida said he considered it to be 50% complete at this point.

how is it that people still post this crap 3 patches after its been stated?

so weve been at 50% for half a year now i take it?



the game isnt a beta


was wow pre cataclysm a cataclysm beta
was it a wrath beta before that
was it a crusafes beta before that


was 11 a promathia beta before cop came out?



people dont even have a concept of what a real beta is anymore because the market has been really dumb with them lately and making them glorified demos to attract sales before a game launches(which means they werent even betas at all)

[Molly_Millions]

It's up to the developers when a particular program is in a beta state or not. It may feel like a beta to some folks, but that's not the same as being in beta. Beta, is short for 'beta test' or unreleased, being that this game has been released it is by definition not in beta test phase.

Like or not, those of you saying this game is in the beta test phase are simply wrong.

[Rubicon]

How can some of you think 2.0 is an EXPANSION?! /smh Seriously? Maybe you don't want to call 1.0 a beta but it's definitely a feedback driven way of launching 2.0. I don't really care what you call 1.0, it's still an incomplete game. If you don't think so, then maybe 2.0 is not right for you.

2.0 is not an expansion. It's a rebirth of fail.0 and really the only salvation XIV has left. That's why Yoshida is running back and forth between us and the devs to make sure we get the game we want.

[nokinator]

RAAAAAAAAARRRRRR!!!!! I sunk your battleship!

oh wait is the the correct thread..

[Jennestia]

This game is below alpha testing.

Below Alpha in game development is concept artwork and written words in documents. So we're now playing with pieces of paper?

[Dragon]

Whether or not XIV is a beta, is nothing more than mere opinion. Just because you claim to be paying for it doesn't mean jack, either.

[Mrfox0707]

but it is a beta.

[Geesus]

How can some of you think 2.0 is an EXPANSION?! /smh Seriously? Maybe you don't want to call 1.0 a beta but it's definitely a feedback driven way of launching 2.0. I don't really care what you call 1.0, it's still an incomplete game. If you don't think so, then maybe 2.0 is not right for you.

2.0 is not an expansion. It's a rebirth of fail.0 and really the only salvation XIV has left. That's why Yoshida is running back and forth between us and the devs to make sure we get the game we want.

I may not totally agree with the "tone" of Rubicon's email but it's true. Ok so everyone here on these forums paid for either a CE or Standard edition copy of FFXIV. We also have been here as Alpha, CB and OB testers, retail launch players and now....what? What do you call yourself?

The point most of you seem to be ether ignoring or not willing to come to grips with are as follows. Please tell me this, when Call of Duty (any of them) launched, did the developers of that game ask for your input after launch? Did they set up forums to get your "feedback" in order to improve the game? No. Plain and simple no they did not. They gave you new maps after X months. ANY Mario game? Nope. Ummmm Battlefield? No? Ok just checking. Shoot how about Aion? Noo...? nooo not them either and that failure of a game?! Ok just checking. So all those games launched, maybe had a few hiccups with MMOFPS servers and such but I'm sure we all can agree, none of those companies came to you and ASKED and or BEGGED for your support and help/feedback. Right? Right. Ok next. Just from those examples even with the 1 MMORPG *chuckles inside* all of those games launched, were played, sucked or didn't suck and failed or moved on into gaming history or at least on the "Hell yes I will play this again" shelf. None of them launched then are looking to "relaunch" in order to save the game using the FEEDBACK of the people playing the game to make it MARKETABLE for consumers who are willing to try it out for the first time, those who may come back and for those awaiting it on a console; gods know for what reason but they are. When you test bed ANY product, you ask for what is it called.... *scratches head* ... Oh yeah... FEEDBACK! Without it you have no idea what other issues need to be resolved before releasing it to the masses. We are by no means, the masses lmao! We are helping SE and Yoshi-P decide what works best, what should be added removed, tweaked, redone etc etc.... shoot.... other than getting paid BY them and doing the actual design work, this is OUR game! How we express ourselves to the Devs and Yoshi-P is what may constitute what someone new to a FF MMORPG could go, "Holy hell this shit is epic!" or for them to go,"BWAAHAHAHAHAHA STILL a failure; losers."

So while again semantics is what it is, this is a beta people for real whether you like it or not. Again, idc wtf you call it. I'm playing it, paying for it and HOPING the subs have removed the freaking whiny asshats that were asking for dumbass crap to be added and good things to be removed from the game. I hope to be smiling next year when 2.0 releases and it redeems SE and places Yoshi-P on the boards for saving this game.

[Reinheart]

FFXIV is beta still, sure the system is getting better but it still got long way to go.

If the game is still being fixed, modified, changed from the initial system I say it's beta which they are still doing. Just because this is an MMO or any online game that can drastically change from initial release... FFXIV even at current state has tons of stuff lacking from what initial games should have at launch so I say it's still beta.

But even if its beta or not I don't care... I just enjoy what I can enjoy in the current game even though it frustrates me at times....