Stop calling it a beta

[Sephrick]

how is it that people still post this crap 3 patches after its been stated?

so weve been at 50% for half a year now i take it?



the game isnt a beta


was wow pre cataclysm a cataclysm beta
was it a wrath beta before that
was it a crusafes beta before that


was 11 a promathia beta before cop came out?



people dont even have a concept of what a real beta is anymore because the market has been really dumb with them lately and making them glorified demos to attract sales before a game launches(which means they werent even betas at all)

No, but none of those games had to publicly admit they released a sub par product and state a year later that they were completely remaking the game from the ground up.

MMOs always are at a level of development, but none of those games you mention were completely stripping away the core mechanics of the game and replacing them.

[Baxter]

I just emailed this thread to all of my friends to show them how retarded the FFXIV boards are.

hint:if they assume we are anything at all like you - they know

[Kailea_Nagisa]

So people think we are in a beta phase? For what, an already completed game being scrapped for a better one? The improvements you see are for 1.0 and some new ideas in 1.0 will be carried over to 2.0. Beta is to test a product before it's release, and we are not playing 2.0, we are playing 1.0. If we were in beta testing, it would be test 2.0's engine and client.

We are not beta testing a client that is eventually being dropped completely, we are playing a 100% completed game that is simply being replaced by a superior product. Whatever changes and criticism that is making 1.0 different, some of these new features are not going to make it to 2.0, because all the Dev's are doing in 1.0 is attempting to hold you over till they can get their better game out there. Simply making the time in the game for you right now a bit easier.

People need to research the term beta before using the word so loosely.

many of us do know the term "beta" and been in plenty (real betas that is)

I keep calling it a beta, mainly poking fun at the game, yes I do enjoy playing it right now, but that does not mean I don't ignore the fact that this game is indeed not finished, and is in horrible disarray.

You don't always have to take a definition so seriously and absolute.

We are testing base elements that will show up in 2.0 some of them just ideas that might not even make it (heck in the end of all this, they might take out thinks like retainers)

The game is incomplete
the game is buggy as hell
the game has many features that should have been there at release but are not
hell a lot of the stats still don't work right -.-


all these can be used to describe a game in beta status, so guess what that what I call it.

[Seif]

It's beta.

[normalforce]

It's beta.

Nah, it's past beta. Gamma, maybe?

[BeePee]

Title makes me think of this:
http://youtu.be/vimZj8HW0Kg

[Velhart]

many of us do know the term "beta" and been in plenty (real betas that is)

I keep calling it a beta, mainly poking fun at the game, yes I do enjoy playing it right now, but that does not mean I don't ignore the fact that this game is indeed not finished, and is in horrible disarray.

You don't always have to take a definition so seriously and absolute.

We are testing base elements that will show up in 2.0 some of them just ideas that might not even make it (heck in the end of all this, they might take out thinks like retainers)

The game is incomplete
the game is buggy as hell
the game has many features that should have been there at release but are not
hell a lot of the stats still don't work right -.-


all these can be used to describe a game in beta status, so guess what that what I call it.

Again, you are really using the word loosely. If you want to say that feedback from 1.0 is helping contribute to 2.0's development, then yes that is accurate. However, calling it beta is simply not true if you want to get technical.

Also, your list seems invalid, since those criticisms would only go towards the benefit of 1.0. I think stats would be a valid one however.

-Game is complete, it just isn't good. Rather, the original concept was a failure and the new Dev's are adding in content to favor FFXI's style of gameplay while they killed off guildleves being the main form of content.
-How can we contribute to the bugs if 2.0 is a completely new engine/client?
-It is an MMO, new features always come in.

People really underestimate how different 2.0 is going to be in terms of functionality.

[Lucifer]

ITT: Semantics.

You people need help.

[syntaxlies]

No matter what the community thinks or considers, this game is not a beta. It is now a retail game, that is 100% as complete as other games. It will be upgraded later yes, but all MMO's are continually upgraded. The game developers believe it deserves to be paid for, if you do too, then pay. If not, then don't.

Don't expect extra compensation because you are somehow "altruistic" enough to pay for an incomplete game, because you are not. At this point its just like any other. They are providing you a service, you pay for it. It's selfish to think you deserve an extra prize greater than what you would get with a different game.

Seriously do you storm into gamestop and claim that because you didn't like the game you bought you want a free strategy guide or something?

by definition this game is alpha.

alpha means that the core structure of the game is being worked on, beta means that the bugs are being fixed.

[Lum]

by definition this game is alpha.

alpha means that the core structure of the game is being worked on, beta means that the bugs are being fixed.

Was just about to write this. It's currently in an alpha state. Beta is still a ways off and will start with the "free trial" of the PC 2.0 version and will end when it releases on the PS3.