Which would you recommend: Smn or Rdm?

[Renryuu]

Heya, I was just wondering which job would you guys recommend, Summoner or Red Mage?

[Sunako]

Job you enjoy more.

[M1551NGN0]

Job you enjoy more.

And that's /thread.

[xJimmehx]

Well.. RDM gets skills that raise 1 or both of two meters. Black magic gauge and White magic gauge. If you get the gauges high enough, you can spend them to use other moves. Its pretty fun imo. Like a warrior spending beast gauge to fell cleave sort of...

You get vercure, veraise, verholy and verflare and thats awesome.
In basic game play when you cast your quicker spells, every other cast triggers a free instacast, you can use the instacast to cast bigger spells and those spells have a chance of procing other big spells..Its interesting in my opinion.

I dont know much about summoner. I would recommend you try some potd as smn and rdm to at least get a little bit of an idea how they will work.

[Karshan]

I'd say smthg lire this :
Progress / fight you don't know : RDM (quite easy yet efficient core cycle, several braise in a row). SMN has too many things to watch, add unknown mechanics to watch over and goodbye DPS
Logs runs / farm : SMN has better DPS. But can go RDM if you like it better / have a great compo

[Cidel]

For now, I recommend RDM unless you don't mind being here at least every other major patch or so complaining about something.

[Laerune]

Both have pros and cons, but personaly its all about the flavour of the class for me.

SMN:

- Has pets and can summon Bahamut.
- Leveling a SMN will auto-level a Scholar class.
- You cast magicks
- Dot based DPS
- Before 4.1 the class was crappy, according to SE its alot better now.

RDM:

- You cast Magicks, but also do some melee combo attacks.
- Easy gameplay
- You can ress and heal the group, which is handy when someone is dead or the healer needs some help.
- The Rapier looks very good (alot better then a book, imo)

I have only played for 1 day since 4.1 was released, so I can not say how both classes are right now. In 4.0, Summoner required alot more effort and was more punishing, then Red Mage. Red Mage is a fun class to play with and very easy to master.

[Singularity]

As others have said, I'd suggest you try them both and see what you like more. Or at least give us more details about what kind of playstyle you're looking for.

[Llugen]

If you are a player who likes a challenging class and have mad skills, play SMN.

If you'd prefer a class that is easier and more intuitive, RDM.

[Renryuu]

Or at least give us more details about what kind of playstyle you're looking for.

Well, that is a bit of a problem since I don't really know lol. On one hand, I've played Smn and in general the "Warlock" job for years so even now I still feel burnt out on the job, but on the other hand I hear Rdms are no longer wanted and are bad so I feel like I have to level Smn and go back to it. I know I don't play Smn optimally and keep forgetting to refresh dots on time, which lead to them falling off while on the other end, I know I can play Red Mage optimally since it's simple.