How's Ultimate?

[Rufalus]

I don't play in a static or do hardcore pve stuff, but I'm ok with ultimate existing. It's fun for us mere mortals to talk about. Everything else gets farmed and dissected and we all know everything about it, but ultimate has a kind of myth about it so far at least. Nobody has seen the end of the fight yet and there is speculation about what it might involve. I think it's healthy for an mmo to have some unknown quantity and mystery about it. Some small percentage of ridiculous content that people can't work out for maybe a long time. If people don't beat unending coil soon, they will probably do it soon after patch 4.2 using the new gear, and then put out the guides to help other people handle the mechanics. Guides + 370 gear from second omega savage will make it accessible to more statics... maybe.

[EorzeaHero69]

Ultimate is so freaking brutal. Those twisters gave me PTSD when I saw em, cause I remember I had a hard time getting past t5 back in the day. So far I 'm at 18% on Twintania

[Nestama]

And that pretty much sums up everything you've said so far. You keep clinging to the same argument despite all the counter-arguments made against it, and it still has no feasible proof of being fact. Why are you still going on about it here? I, too, am beginning to smell a troll...

That, or bswpayton still hasn't realised how selfish/entitled they sound.

[Anarnee]

I can't do it, but I've been having so much fun watching people stream it. Looks like an amazing fight and I'm glad it exists.

Hits me in the nostalgia.

[RiyahArp]

I bet the people claiming that Ultimate is a waste of resources are the same people who think that verminion is content.

More people will do Verminion for longer than they will do this, and at least it's something people can do when they are bored of all else. This is just pointless...no one here in this thread is really doing it in any sense, we're all just talking about it like it was season 2 of Dad of Light.

[LunarEmerald]

I bet the people claiming that Ultimate is a waste of resources are the same people who think that verminion is content.

People are just self-entitled and expect every single thing to be catered to their needs. They don't care about it? Then it shouldn't exist. They care about something? Then the developers should spend all their resources on it.

[LunarEmerald]

More people will do Verminion for longer than they will do this, and at least it's something people can do when they are bored of all else. This is just pointless...no one here in this thread is really doing it in any sense, we're all just talking about it like it was season 2 of Dad of Light.

Sure isn't pointless to all the groups having a blast trying to beat it. They've been wanting a boss that's truly difficult for years and they finally got one. Savage is casual mode compared to Ultimate and doesn't make them feel challenged. From now on, all the super hardcore players will treat Savage as a warm up/prep time for Ultimate. Ultimate is what they care about. You should try watching streams like 5150 or Xeno. They're loving it.

[Nestama]

More people will do Verminion for longer than they will do this, and at least it's something people can do when they are bored of all else. This is just pointless...no one here in this thread is really doing it in any sense, we're all just talking about it like it was season 2 of Dad of Light.

But there's more than one person doing Ultimate...

[HyoMinPark]

More people will do Verminion for longer than they will do this, and at least it's something people can do when they are bored of all else. This is just pointless...no one here in this thread is really doing it in any sense, we're all just talking about it like it was season 2 of Dad of Light.

LoV was dead on Day 1. Ultimate has ~80 groups competing for World First, and tons of others just wanting to try it, even if they don’t clear it until a later patch when they have higher ilvl gear. Not to mention, I don’t think anyone has ever gotten a sponsor deal from streaming LoV, yet 5150 got one from streaming Ultimate soooo.....

[Joe777]

More people will do Verminion for longer than they will do this, and at least it's something people can do when they are bored of all else. This is just pointless...no one here in this thread is really doing it in any sense, we're all just talking about it like it was season 2 of Dad of Light.

Must be opposite day, otherwise everything you just said is wrong. Don't get me wrong though, I don't dislike Lord of Verminion myself, but I will admit I only did the introductory sequence one time a good while back and haven't played any actual matches in it, nor do I know of anyone on my server that does play it. It is a nice concept though...

Coils Ultimate, on the other hand, is a concept many have tackled, are still tackling, and are having fun doing it. Those not having fun or claiming it is pointless and/or "wasted resources" are those who will probably never play it whether by choice or not and are salty that they can't or won't step up. Seriously, why are some people salty about it? It was delayed from 4.1 where it would have come with all the other content we got in 4.1 among other content also coming later, has no rewards that make people need to run it (it's basically glamour so it isn't mandatory, progressively speaking), and is the challenge so many people have waited a long time for and never quite got out of savage content.