How's Ultimate?

[Joe777]

I know I'm very subtil in my way to write. But I think you should check my signature or fflog. x)

You know what you said contradicts your signature though right?

Ultimate again would have been fine if patch came with actual content in it but it didnt , and it looks bad when the only new thing implemented isnt even for 99 percent of the player base. Go look at some videos on the topic of ultimate its several comments like exactly what im saying here people question why this was brought out but yet nothing for basicly the whole playerbase of the game. I put a post up a while back about what everyone was doing with the lack of content in the game and ultimate does nothing to change that, the patch should of had more instead we got less than 3.1.

1. As I said before, Coils Ultimate was announced long before 4.11 but didn't make it in time to be included in 4.1. The fact that there was nothing else added content-wise with Coils Ultimate doesn't mean they would've added something else if they hadn't added that.
2. Coils Ultimate does count as content. FF14 is big on unlocking content by clearing other content. Coils Ultimate is no exception. You want to play it? Then clear the pre-requisite content. It's that simple. As long as you can clear the pre-requisite content then you can play that content, and if you can't then you have that to work on first, or you can do something else. Not like this game is lacking in things for everyone to do.
3. You seem to enjoy using fflogs to back up your argument rather than using common sense. Clear rates shmear rates they don't have any bearing on how many people are actually playing the content, and that is what truly matters. Apparently fflogs doesn't tell you that or you wouldn't be arguing with everyone like fflogs is the only info that matters.

[Lambdafish]

You know what you said contradicts your signature though right?

He's making fun of bswpayton's view by showing everyone the logical extreme. He doesn't actually believe what he is saying

[bswpayton]

You know what you said contradicts your signature though right?

I have no intrest in ultimate, Ill leave that to xenos or happs, in xenos case first two days he spent 22 hours or something like that doing this fight. Hes also the one with whom his whole team beat alex with all tanks so obviously he is on another skill level.

So if it takes him 22 hours just to get into second phase I personally would have zero interest in this content, along with I dont know the majority of the players in the game. And just playing content means nothing if people arent clearing it , end result is all that matters at the end of the day, thats like going to work and not gettin a pay check at the end of the pay period i dont know about you but id be pretty pissed If I didnt get paid.

What im sayin is more content, outside of the formula would have been nice than using any resources at all on ultimate because of how small the percentage of people whom could even do this and would actually clear it. Most of the people here are hypocrites, someone asked a while back to add on level rewards to the old binding coil the answer to that person on the forums was an overwhelming no. But yet this comes out and people are all for it, if they gona reuse assets it should be for many people not a small portion of the community that it takes making an unbeatable fight to make them happy.



@l1nk

The exaggerations here are truely priceless, yea lets see you cant even do anything in the game with one button. Go try it stand in one spot dont press any buttons to move and just use savage blade over and over and see how quickly you die.

@SaitoHikari

I have run out of post but no I am not trolling never have never will I just dont back down from people whom disagree with me nor should anyone else

[Joe777]

So if it takes him 22 hours just to get into second phase I personally would have zero interest in this content, along with I dont know the majority of the players in the game. And just playing content means nothing if people arent clearing it , end result is all that matters at the end of the day, thats like going to work and not gettin a pay check at the end of the pay period i dont know about you but id be pretty pissed If I didnt get paid.

That is a terrible analogy. Finding a way to clear extremely difficult content is more akin to trying to create something brand new, testing it for errors, and correcting any found and continuously working on it until it is done and works. Yes, inventing something is a more proper analogy than what you said. There is indeed great satisfaction to be had when it is completed, but the trip means just as much as the destination.

What im sayin is more content, outside of the formula would have been nice than using any resources at all on ultimate because of how small the percentage of people whom could even do this and would actually clear it. Most of the people here are hypocrites, someone asked a while back to add on level rewards to the old binding coil the answer to that person on the forums was an overwhelming no. But yet this comes out and people are all for it, if they gona reuse assets it should be for many people not a small portion of the community that it takes making an unbeatable fight to make them happy.

Binding Coils and Coils Ultimate are completely different things. Therefore, hypocrisy is not present. Those that like what Coils Ultimate have done like it for both its difficulty and what it actually is. Those that like Binding Coils liked it for the same reasons, but over time Binding Coils became obsolete. That is why people wanted incentive to run it; because otherwise it was a waste of their time, even though they liked it.

You keep going on and on about how Coils Ultimate is wasted resources but as you have been told over and over again it is not. It was content planned before 4.1 that didn't make it with that patch and so it was added later. It in no way has pushed any other content further from being released on its own. If anything pushed that content back it was SE themselves and whatever delays happened. You would still argue that Coils is responsible and is still wasted resources simply because not everyone can run it but that is and always will be false. So long as even 1% of the playerbase enjoys it it was not a waste. And don't try to argue with the whole business perspective because that's just a crock. FF14 isn't Square Enix's only income you know.

[Zojha]

So long as even 1% of the playerbase enjoys it it was not a waste.

Go and make a game that always wholly caters to only 1% of the current playerbase with every update and you'll quickly realize that this is a surefire way to quickly decimate the playerbase, because using resources disproportionately equals wasting resources. Only 1% enjoying a piece of content is only "fine" if it took around 1% of your resources to make.

The fact that everything including the rewards is rehashed is the saving grace of Ultimate, really. Not a whole lot of people are doing it, not a whole lot of resources were spent... You can err on the side of:"That's okay." At this point, Feast rewards are probably a bigger offender in the "wasted resources" category.

[HyoMinPark]

Go and make a game that always wholly caters to only 1% of the current playerbase with every update and you'll quickly realize that this is a surefire way to quickly decimate the playerbase, because using resources disproportionately equals wasting resources. Only 1% enjoying a piece of content is only "fine" if it took around 1% of your resources to make.

The fact that everything including the rewards is rehashed is the saving grace of Ultimate, really. Not a whole lot of people are doing it, not a whole lot of resources were spent... You can err on the side of:"That's okay." At this point, Feast rewards are probably a bigger offender in the "wasted resources" category.

Your argument would make more sense if this was something SE did on a frequent basis, but this is the first of its kind, and was released alongside other content for the other 99% of players. It was still requested by the 1%, and, contrary to what some people say, their opinions and desires should also be taken into consideration.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

if they gona reuse assets it should be for many people not a small portion of the community that it takes making an unbeatable fight to make them happy.

They do. The overwhelming majority of content is meant for varying skill levels. You can grumble about it all you fancy but Ivalice, Shinryu and Skalla are three pieces of content casual players get to enjoy. You claim it an exaggeration, but for hardcore players, no, they haven't had much since Midas. Would you rather they put the used resources into new furniture items? Oh wait, I recall you whined over that too because housing "isn't content."

At some point, you'll have to come to gripes with the fact this isn't Bswpayton Fantasy. And thank the twelve for it.