How's Ultimate?

[bswpayton]

Who do people think they are to .

Jealous of what exactly it's nothing to be remotely jealous about

[HyoMinPark]

Jealous of what exactly it's nothing to be remotely jealous about

You incessant insisting that Ultimate is a waste of resources, and the tirade you’ve been on about it since it was announced, does start to sound like you’re jealous and/or salty about how you can’t do the content (be it because of lack or group or lack of skill), and that’s why you think it shouldn’t be in the game. Heck, someone on here not too long ago asked for Kugane jump puzzles to be removed on the sole basis that “I can’t do them, so they shouldn’t be in the game.”

[bswpayton]

You incessant insisting that Ultimate is a waste of resources, and the tirade you’ve been on about it since it was announced, does start to sound like you’re jealous and/or salty about how you can’t do the content (be it because of lack or group or lack of skill), and that’s why you think it shouldn’t be in the game. Heck, someone on here not too long ago asked for Kugane jump puzzles to be removed on the sole basis that “I can’t do them, so they shouldn’t be in the game.”

Money and riches is something to get jealous about not some content in a video game. So youd be totally wrong on that one and so would anyone else, if I wanted to be jealuos of someone it would be a bill gates , or a mark zukerburg even then they worked for theres so it would be stupid to be jealous of them.

I am just simply sayin if they where going to go outside of the norm then make stuff that most people can actually play not something for even half of those whom raid in the first place cant even do. Everyone else got the same old stale content cycle while , the only new and fresh stuff cant even be done by anyone in the game hardly. This is about lack of playable content. If I where jealous id be whinning about neoexdeath, but I didnt make a peep about it I did the raids that are easiest to do on your own and was totally fine with that. I dont care if people get further, I just want content for more people than a few people dont see how thats really an issue.

[HyoMinPark]

Money and riches is something to get jealous about not some content in a video game. So youd be totally wrong on that one and so would anyone else, if I wanted to be jealuos of someone it would be a bill gates , or a mark zukerburg even then they worked for theres so it would be stupid to be jealous of them.

I am just simply sayin if they where going to go outside of the norm then make stuff that most people can actually play not something for even half of those whom raid in the first place cant even do. Everyone else got the same old stale content cycle while , the only new and fresh stuff cant even be done by anyone in the game hardly. This is about lack of playable content. If I where jealous id be whinning about neoexdeath, but I didnt make a peep about it I did the raids that are easiest to do on your own and was totally fine with that. I dont care if people get further, I just want content for more people than a few people dont see how thats really an issue.

If you aren’t jealous, then why aren’t you just letting this go? Why continue on this tirade?

Ultimate was not the center of 4.1’s release: that was the 24-man Ivalice raid and Shirogane Housing (which, since that affects the entire playerbase as a whole—and is an extremely limited asset in a completely broken system—why aren’t you complaining about it?). Eureka will come out in 4.2, and hopefully it won’t be another Diadem; I think it was a good decision on the developer’s part to delay its release if Eureka doesn’t flop as hard as Diadem did (twice)—because, if you want to talk about something making or breaking the game, if Eureka turns out to be another Diadem, FFXIV is going to suffer for it; I’m fairly confident on that.

The majority of this game has content that is tuned for the more casual side of the playerbase—even Savage and the Ex trials are getting easier so that the more softcore side of the playerbase can get into the content. And while that’s not necessarily a bad thing (content accessibility in general isn’t), the tilt towards everything getting easier is something that a lot of people are growing annoyed with. Raiders are allowed to have their content, too, every once in a while. Sorry that that hurts you you so much.

And, news flash: “money and riches” aren’t the only things one can be jealous of.

[bswpayton]

If you aren’t jealous, then why aren’t you just letting this go? Why continue on this tirade?

Ultimate was not the center of 4.1’s release: that was the 24-man Ivalice raid and Shirogane Housing (which, since that affects the entire playerbase as a whole—and .

If what your sayin is true then anyone whom hasnt cleared neoexdeath or v3s would just be bumping their gums. As Ive said again the fflogs data shows that there arent even more than 5 to 6 k parses on some of the most popular jobs from neoexdeath. So noone can say the raids are easier if they havent even cleared them, thats why i refute this argument the forums is just a voice.

While data from floggs is a much bigger indicated on whats considered hard and whats not, if you and your group find the raids easy then fine, but if you look at the data then it proves that its not as easy for everyone as you may believe it to be. The last time I saw anyone even on the forums complain about how easy the raid was , on release when aka the best players of the game where steam roling them. Months down the line the devs have stated people have struggled with three and four, and the data shows the same thing.

So again this many people thinking the content is easy is just a lie, or have no room to speak if they are still on v3s or exdeath and havent even finished the raid tier. Data is always more important than a couple of people coming to the forums talkin about how easy things are. The saying goes numbers dont lie and talk is cheap, so talk of whats easy means nothing when the data shows that its not.

[HyoMinPark]

If what your sayin is true then anyone whom hasnt cleared neoexdeath or v3s would just be bumping their gums. As Ive said again the fflogs data shows that there arent even more than 5 to 6 k parses on some of the most popular jobs from neoexdeath. So noone can say the raids are easier if they havent even cleared them, thats why i refute this argument the forums is just a voice.

Omega is easier than any of the Alexander raids, which also progressively got easier, with Midas being the best tuned out of the three. But since you failed to read my comments on that earlier, I’m not going to bother repeating them. It would just be a waste of words.

So again this many people thinking the content is easy is just a lie, or have no room to speak if they are still on v3s or exdeath and havent even finished the raid tier. Data is always more important than a couple of people coming to the forums talkin about how easy things are. The saying goes numbers dont like and talk is cheap, so talk of whats easy means nothing when the data shows that its not.

Your argument goes both ways. You haven’t finished the tier; haven’t even cleared V3S, since you said yourself you only did the “easier” floors. So who are you to speak on the difficulty of content you haven’t even done? I have cleared A11S and V3S—Halicarnassus was easier than Cruise Chaser. While I haven’t beaten Neo yet, I have seen GCO, so I’ve basically seen the entire fight (since his mechanics repeat after GCO with the exception of Neverwhere). While healing checks can be intense during things like Almagest and the Grand Crosses, I find the healing checks in A12S to be harder, content I have also done. I feel fairly confident speaking on these matters since I have actually done said content being discussed.

With regards to Gordias, ask anyone who raided at the time how difficult it was compared to Omega—the bosses in Omega all roll over compared to Living Liquid and Manipulator. Same for A8S and Brute Justice.

[bswpayton]

Omega is easier than any of the Alexander raids, which also progressively got easier, with Midas being the best tuned out of the three. But since you failed to read my comments on that earlier, I’m not going to bother repeating them. It would just be a waste of words.
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You said the key word you, but again floogs shows on plaidan which is one of the most played jobs in savage a 5 thousand player drop off from one to three, and a 10 thousand player drop off in neo exdeath. So again this is data you are going by your own personal experience and people that you know, when data shows that 10 thousand fewer people that started omega have completed the whole thing.

So what am I to do take your word over a glaring 10k player drop off on one of the most popular jobs in the game. Your word my word dont matter when there is proof online already, Im not the one who uses the word easy or undertuned on anything aside from dungeons because thats pretty much a fact its the most accessible content along with potd. I understand that my perspective on whats easy doesnt speak for whats actually being cleared and whats not but according to everyone here I guess data doesnt matter when it comes to their friends and own personal experience.

And as for me I went into v3s one time in a learning group and didnt want to pug it so I just didnt, just like you havent cleared neoexdeath doesn't mean I coudlnt also clear v3s. I just really dont like doing group content that much where i have to depend on other people , and dont like answering to people hence why I left a static I joined after a week Im very much a solo player I dont play the game to make friends (maybe one day that will change). But my experience doesnt matter just like yours does not either, nor anyone in this thread when the data alone speaks for itself on what is or isnt easy, that is a fact Im sorry you wont to disagree with data but it holds more weight than anyone on this forum could ever period.

@Bernkastelx

So your sayin take someones word over data? duh they have to be uploaded but I guess ten thousand fewer people where just to ashamed to upload their neo exdeath clears get out of here with that nonsense