How's Ultimate?

[Joe777]

People like bswpayton just don't get the reasoning behind adding difficult content, so they believe they are right and we are wrong just because it is too hard for them to clear. Quite sad, really. What many have asked for is a challenge and never truly got because Square Enix wanted the more softcore players to be able to clear it too. O4S offers rewards vital to making BiS gear. Coils Ultimate offers Glamour. What the problem is? Nothing. If you can't clear Coils Ultimate then oh well, try harder or give up. Just because you can't clear it though doesn't mean it was a mistake. Quite the opposite in fact. This means we have purely optional content that the hardcore players among us can truly enjoy because it isn't faceroll or follow the script and no problem to clear.

[RiyahArp]

This means we have purely optional content that the hardcore players among us can truly enjoy because it isn't faceroll or follow the script and no problem to clear.

I think not many people actually enjoy it. They like the idea of it, and they like watching others try since there's not much to do in game at the moment, but really only a tiny percentage of players will stick with it any length of time.

[Joe777]

I think not many people actually enjoy it. They like the idea of it, and they like watching others try since there's not much to do in game at the moment, but really only a tiny percentage of players will stick with it any length of time.

I never said the truly hardcore players weren't a minority But that does tend to be how it goes. Only the best will claim victory in content like this.

[RiyahArp]

I never said the truly hardcore players weren't a minority But that does tend to be how it goes. Only the best will claim victory in content like this.

The same thing can be said for the Feast and it's rewards, but at least everyone can try the Feast, and it lasts beyond a short window of time. This cuts out 90% of the players from the start. Most people will only interact with it if they choose to watch someone's stream. Thats not a particularly good trend in content design for this game, especially since Stormblood is ridiculously content-light.

[Joe777]

The same thing can be said for the Feast and it's rewards, but at least everyone can try the Feast, and it lasts beyond a short window of time. This cuts out 90% of the players from the start. Most people will only interact with it if they choose to watch someone's stream. Thats not a particularly good trend in content design for this game, especially since Stormblood is ridiculously content-light.

PvP is a joke, you know. No one PvPs seriously nowadays and I have heard tales of The Feast that do not exactly make it good content. That said, there is existing content some people don't want to touch already (exs, savage, etc.), and are perfectly fine not doing so. The trend you speak of started ages ago.

Thank you someone that thinks logical like I said, everyone else is looking through rose colored glasses. I'm sorry but the most hard core raiders don't deserve their own content simply because it's not enough of them to warrant being catered to. And I'm not even opposed to the idea of ultimate. It's just highlighted because of how lacking in content this patch is. If they bring out stuff like this it should always be accompanied with something equivalent for other players.

So your logic is that because there aren't enough hardcore raiders that they shouldn't get worthy content. That, my friend, is false logic. If players don't have anything to strive for then they will get lazy and complacent and not try hard enough to get good enough to even attempt hardcore content. Coils Ultimate is a mountain to climb and while not everyone can climb it or reach the top it is still something to strive for. Furthermore, why punish good players with faceroll only content? If all content released is so easy everyone could do it and clear it then the game will get boring.