How's Ultimate?

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What really matters at the end of the day is how cheap this fight was hopefully it was extremely cheap to implement if not then it is certainly a waste of resources.

In your opinion.. That is.

Logic says it keeps people playing the game. Did we really lose out on another piece of content because of Ultimate? We got a new trial, we got a new dungeon, we got a new 24-man, we got non-battle related stuff.. What else would we have got if not Ultimate? Anything?

I'd rather have the opinion all that really matters is whether the players this fight was made for think it was a worthy challenge. Will they say it was a waste of dev time & resources? There's certainly a segment of the raiding community that might otherwise have just disappeared until the next raid cycle if it weren't for Ultimate. Another point, it's not a given that beating o4s means you can beat Ultimate, so while maybe only a few hundred or few thousand people will ultimately kill Ultimate, it's something to keep the other thousands of raiders logging in just to try (or watch other people try).

Finally, I personally would much rather have a separate "ultra-hardcore" raid for that crowd than the ultra-hardcore tier of crap that was Gordias. There's really no reason to be opposed to the current structure, it's gives the majority playerbase a fun challenge without all the cancer, and satiates the hardcore's appetite for difficult content. I'd say it's a win-win, but it's really more like a compromise between people that think the devs should only make content for everybody, and raiders who simply want more challenging content. The former need to accept a small amount of resources going in to hardcore content, while the smaller group of hardcore raiders need to accept that the majority of raiding content will be tuned for the raiding masses instead of themselves.