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[KageTokage]

The only thing I'm salty about is how in the final boss the "keep moving" marker doesn't convey that at all and is super dumb so I kind of looked like an idiot for my first couple of runs not knowing what it did...

Also I'm a bit salty we didn't get any FFXII remixes in Rabanastre of all places

That move is poorly translated (They translated "continue to act" as "scatter"), so I don't you can blame anyone for messing up at it without reading a guide.

[BillyKaplan]

That move is poorly translated (They translated "continue to act" as "scatter"), so I don't you can blame anyone for messing up at it without reading a guide.

You want to tell me they actually took away the Kelpie lore from "opposite horse" in Skalla by switching the attack names, but they left 'scatter' that has nothing to do with the debuff-command itself? Gosh darnit, SE

[ElHeggunte]

The only thing I'm salty about is how in the final boss the "keep moving" marker doesn't convey that at all and is super dumb so I kind of looked like an idiot for my first couple of runs not knowing what it did...

Yes, I would say the only real legitimate complaint about mechanics would be that Scatter is poorly explained. With a name like "scatter" you would think it wanted you to move away from other players or to stack up on them when you're to disobey. It doesn't really suggest moving around or sitting still.

That move is poorly translated (They translated "continue to act" as "scatter"), so I don't you can blame anyone for messing up at it without reading a guide.

Explains a lot.

[RiyahArp]

Issues, lets see.

I hate how most wipes tend to be simply because people forgot to put markers, and people get confused about which little prison to go into. This is actually a big issue on chariot guy, because the timing is pretty tight to get in there. I also hate the spinning confusion marker, because it's cheap difficulty. Chariot guy's ultimate is still too long, and the last boss's 3 misses = chicken mechanic isn't fun for many people because it takes all control out of your hands for a long time than kills you.

It also feels like it really punishes people who do it only once per week. I mean its hard to get used to these mechanics specifically without a bit of practice, since it's not just dodging or relatively easy tells.

[Pheryx]

My only complaint is getting to hashmal and the spams for vote abandon after only 2 wipes. :/

[DamianFatale]

I dislike when people give up on Hashmal. He’s not impossible.

[Enla]

I dislike when people give up on Hashmal. He’s not impossible.

He's actually insanely easy. He just requires people to somewhat know the fight, stick to the middle when the pillar spawns aren't in play, and pay attention.

[RitsukoSonoda]

He's actually insanely easy. He just requires people to somewhat know the fight, stick to the middle when the pillar spawns aren't in play, and pay attention.

Hashmal IMO the main cause of wipes on him to me is players killing other players with mechanics frequently because they appear to only be focused on their own DPS and don't care that they are dropping markers on other people. Also frequently in my expriences the 2 golem adds are left to run around punching squishy ppl as the please because neither OT tries to grab them. Or. the OT's do grab them but no one actually DPS's them so they get to spam AoE's until a large part of the alliance dies when both AoE in sync with Hashmal doing his Quake AoE.

[Enla]

Hashmal IMO the main cause of wipes on him to me is players killing other players with mechanics frequently because they appear to only be focused on their own DPS and don't care that they are dropping markers on other people. Also frequently in my expriences the 2 golem adds are left to run around punching squishy ppl as the please because neither OT tries to grab them. Or. the OT's do grab them but no one actually DPS's them so they get to spam AoE's until a large part of the alliance dies when both AoE in sync with Hashmal doing his Quake AoE.

For me the Golems are never an issue since the times I've run it with only one exception, the magic DPS have saved their limit break to wittle them down. It's happened so frequently while I'm farming I'm surprised it isn't the current meta for others.

[RitsukoSonoda]

For me the Golems are never an issue since the times I've run it with only one exception, the magic DPS have saved their limit break to wittle them down. It's happened so frequently while I'm farming I'm surprised it isn't the current meta for others.

I've only had 1 group actually caster LB3 the golems without 6+ ppl saying to do it beforehand. However its also very easily manageable if everyone burns the same golem right as they spawn cutting the add AoE dmg in half then burn the other afterwards.