please read this..the same still sux..

[KiriA500]

[Griss]

[ApplePie]

So you got 3 Weapons in total and you want have all 7 by now after around 30 Fights? Sorry but that is just greedy and has nothing to do with a "fair" Droprate.

I've killed them over 70+ times. I only have 4 weapons. Yes, I'm extremely greedy. It took 20 runs to get my first weapon, I got my second one 10 fights after. And then it took over 50 runs for a new weapons. Please stop posting.

@Applepie
You should instead. In statistic it's call "theory of games", basicly at every new game you have the very same % to win/lose then before.
Alas if primal drop it's 10% for weapons and 30% for tokens, repeating the fight a second time don't make the drop rates 20% and 60%. Deal with science

Uh, that is mathematics, not science, btw. Take a probability and statistics class. You will realize how incorrect you are. In said class, you will have to mathematically calculate how many times said action will be required to complete until you get an item, for arguments sake. So no, it doesn't go "10% = 20% if you do it twice." But it does become higher statistically. This game is the only thing that disagrees with that MATH, not science. They made the percent so low and the calculation for the drop rate so ridiculous that basically your chance to receive something is at a perpetual less than 1% drop rate.

But again, you deal with science *derp* not math.

[Nero]

Whats the deal with those Black People eating Popcorn? Is it something like Asians eating Rice?

[Nero]

I've killed them over 70+ times. I only have 4 weapons. Yes, I'm extremely greedy. It took 20 runs to get my first weapon, I got my second one 10 fights after. And then it took over 50 runs for a new weapons. Please stop posting.

On your last Post you did it 30 Times.. now 70.. you did 40 Runs within the last Hour? Im impressed.

[ApplePie]

On your last Post you did it 30 Times.. now 70.. you did 40 Runs within the last Hour? Im impressed.

Uh.... because it was AFTER I got my first two weapons. Can you not use logic? Do you think my character started the game with two moogle weapons? Good-bye.

(Btw, because you can't use logic, this is how it went, I got two weapons, and then after 30 more runs after I got my second weapon, they were repeats, and then after 30 runs from the initial 2 I received, I obtained a NEW weapon, not a repeat.

Even more explained! I started doing moogle on the day it came out. I got my first weapon on the 14th run, the moogle staff, and then on my 20th run, I received a second weapon, the moogle sword. During said time, I received three charms; I passed said charms to my friends, because I didn't see the point of something that I needed 20 of and had as low as a drop rate of the weapons.

And then, 15 runs went by, I got the moogle staff again, 12 more runs went by, I got the sword again. I didn't receive any charms during those fights. I stopped counting the fights at that point. After uncounted amount of fights later, I got the moogle wand. I recieved two charms during that time as well. Thirteen-plus (stopped counting at that point) fights later, I received the moogle fork. So out of 70+ fights. I've received 4 weapons since the moogle patch came live. I stopped doing moogle as often because I don't care for the other weapons, and the holidays make it difficult to do content. Did you follow it that time? Or should I try an even more explained explanation.)

Even after the fight became expedited, the drop rate is still too low. I know some people who have gotten NOTHING for 50+ fights. Only DM. Please whiteknight harder.

[Felis]

I've killed them over 70+ times. I only have 4 weapons.

4 weapons in total or only 4 different weapons?

[ApplePie]

4 weapons in total or only 4 different weapons?

4 different weapons.
2 repeats.
5 Charms.
8 stacks of DM? Priceless.

[Nero]

Uh.... because it was AFTER I got my first two weapons. Can you not use logic?

Hard to use logic on a Post which doesnt use correct Numbers or simple Numeric Orders.

(Btw, because you can't use logic, this is how it went, I got two weapons, and then after 30 more runs after I got my second weapon, they were repeats, and then after 30 runs from the initial 2 I received, I obtained a NEW weapon, not a repeat.

Dont talk about things which you dont understand, or dont know the meaning of. Here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic

That Statement was a total different one compared to the last Statement. You got 2 Weapons... when? You found them on the Ground? You got an Arrow to the Knee? Thats a fail: Period. If you want to explain what you get in a certain amount of Runs, then do it the right way.

Even more explained! I started doing moogle on the day it came out. I got my first weapon on the 14th run, the moogle staff, and then on my 20th run, I received a second weapon, the moogle sword.

During said time, I received three charms; I passed said charms to my friends, because I didn't see the point of something that I needed 20 of and had as low as a drop rate of the weapons.

And then, 15 runs went by, I got the moogle staff again, 12 more runs went by, I got the sword again. I didn't receive any charms during those fights. I stopped counting the fights at that point. After uncounted amount of fights later, I got the moogle wand. I recieved two charms during that time as well. Thirteen-plus (stopped counting at that point) fights later, I received the moogle fork. So out of 70+ fights.

Oh, you learned something there. That is how you put it in the correct Order.

I've received 4 weapons since the moogle patch came live. I stopped doing moogle as often because I don't care for the other weapons, and the holidays make it difficult to do content. Did you follow it that time?

I followed it the first Time, but since you dont get sarcastic Posts, i will leave it at this.

Or should I try an even more explained explanation.

Go for it, i really didnt get it.

Even after the fight became expedited, the drop rate is still too low. I know some people who have gotten NOTHING for 50+ fights. Only DM. Please whiteknight harder.

I never Whiteknight'd. lol... Maybe you should read again what i said?

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Uh, that is mathematics, not science, btw. Take a probability and statistics class. You will realize how incorrect you are. In said class, you will have to mathematically calculate how many times said action will be required to complete until you get an item, for arguments sake. So no, it doesn't go "10% = 20% if you do it twice." But it does become higher statistically. This game is the only thing that disagrees with that MATH, not science. They made the percent so low and the calculation for the drop rate so ridiculous that basically your chance to receive something is at a perpetual less than 1% drop rate.

But again, you deal with science *derp* not math.

i know it's math, but this is internet and it's meme man.
Also, i *derp* to you: Bernoulli it's on your side, still that count on a infinite amount of try. Do you plan do live indefinitely, and doing ifrit infinitely ?
anyhow this count nothing. I'm for 100% totem drop, or at least 50%
also, bolded phrase it's wrong :||