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    Nero, lol ffxiv is not suppose to be moogle only or ifrit only..they suppose to be a small part in the game like in ffxi... yea i understand harder to get is better but farming none stop with low drop rate isnt entertaining anymore Maybe for you yes but not for me. If want rare item go do a +5 materia armor...i dont even need to tell you that this game failed..even SE themselves admitted they failed at this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathan View Post
    Nero, lol ffxiv is not suppose to be moogle only or ifrit only..they suppose to be a small part in the game like in ffxi... yea i understand harder to get is better but farming none stop with low drop rate isnt entertaining anymore Maybe for you yes but not for me. If want rare item go do a +5 materia armor...i dont even need to tell you that this game failed..even SE themselves admitted they failed at this game.
    You dont get the Point. At the moment Ifrit/Moogle is one of the Maincontent until v2 and we simply have to deal with that, until v2. There is a Roadmap which will bring us a lot more Content, but its obviously not there yet.

    And yes, the Game failed with the early Release which was discussed over and over again, so SE have to rebuild the whole Game, which will end in v2. In all honest, SE has way more things to do, than giving a 100% Droprate on the only 2 Primal-battles.

    The "real" Game will start with v2. The "real" Content will start with v2. And we really shouldnt worry about anything until that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    You dont get the Point. At the moment Ifrit/Moogle is one of the Maincontent until v2 and we simply have to deal with that, until v2. There is a Roadmap which will bring us a lot more Content, but its obviously not there yet.

    And yes, the Game failed with the early Release which was discussed over and over again, so SE have to rebuild the whole Game, which will end in v2. In all honest, SE has way more things to do, than giving a 100% Droprate on the only 2 Primal-battles.

    The "real" Game will start with v2. The "real" Content will start with v2. And we really shouldnt worry about anything until that.
    Agree, I hope SE make MOG very useful for next content so worth the time n effort
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    You dont get the Point. At the moment Ifrit/Moogle is one of the Maincontent until v2 and we simply have to deal with that, until v2. There is a Roadmap which will bring us a lot more Content, but its obviously not there yet.

    And yes, the Game failed with the early Release which was discussed over and over again, so SE have to rebuild the whole Game, which will end in v2. In all honest, SE has way more things to do, than giving a 100% Droprate on the only 2 Primal-battles.

    The "real" Game will start with v2. The "real" Content will start with v2. And we really shouldnt worry about anything until that.
    Yea i get the points, they should not try to cover their lack of content with super low drop rate >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathan View Post
    Yea i get the points, they should not try to cover their lack of content with super low drop rate >.>
    Its not that low as you would prolly think.

    Out of the last aprox. 20 Runs we got aprox. 20 Nutcharms and 11 Weapons. That isnt really low imo. Of course you could be the one who didnt get a Drop and other People got allready 3. But if you see the whole Droprate over 20 Fights you have more than a 50% Droprate. That is to low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Its not that low as you would prolly think.

    Out of the last aprox. 20 Runs we got aprox. 20 Nutcharms and 11 Weapons. That isnt really low imo. Of course you could be the one who didnt get a Drop and other People got allready 3. But if you see the whole Droprate over 20 Fights you have more than a 50% Droprate. That is to low?
    Yes, but what did singular people get? Maybe one weapon? Maybe none depending on the RNG GOD?? I've gone 30+ runs without a single charm or weapon. I stopped counting when it got that high because it was depressing. And then I got two weapons ^-^ repeats ^-^ and then I finally got a new weapon around 10 fights after that.

    So no, I don't agree with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ApplePie View Post
    So no, I don't agree with you.
    So you got 3 Weapons in total and you want have all 7 by now after around 30 Fights? Sorry but that is just greedy and has nothing to do with a "fair" Droprate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    So you got 3 Weapons in total and you want have all 7 by now after around 30 Fights? Sorry but that is just greedy and has nothing to do with a "fair" Droprate.
    I've killed them over 70+ times. I only have 4 weapons. Yes, I'm extremely greedy. It took 20 runs to get my first weapon, I got my second one 10 fights after. And then it took over 50 runs for a new weapons. Please stop posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    @Applepie
    You should instead. In statistic it's call "theory of games", basicly at every new game you have the very same % to win/lose then before.
    Alas if primal drop it's 10% for weapons and 30% for tokens, repeating the fight a second time don't make the drop rates 20% and 60%. Deal with science
    Uh, that is mathematics, not science, btw. Take a probability and statistics class. You will realize how incorrect you are. In said class, you will have to mathematically calculate how many times said action will be required to complete until you get an item, for arguments sake. So no, it doesn't go "10% = 20% if you do it twice." But it does become higher statistically. This game is the only thing that disagrees with that MATH, not science. They made the percent so low and the calculation for the drop rate so ridiculous that basically your chance to receive something is at a perpetual less than 1% drop rate.

    But again, you deal with science *derp* not math.
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    Last edited by ApplePie; 01-08-2012 at 10:43 PM.

    Quote Originally Posted by GreatLeviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Its not that low as you would prolly think.

    Out of the last aprox. 20 Runs we got aprox. 20 Nutcharms and 11 Weapons. That isnt really low imo. Of course you could be the one who didnt get a Drop and other People got allready 3. But if you see the whole Droprate over 20 Fights you have more than a 50% Droprate. That is to low?
    See the thing about the OP is that he means his own personal set of items not specifically someone in his group getting a drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Its not that low as you would prolly think.

    Out of the last aprox. 20 Runs we got aprox. 20 Nutcharms and 11 Weapons. That isnt really low imo. Of course you could be the one who didnt get a Drop and other People got allready 3. But if you see the whole Droprate over 20 Fights you have more than a 50% Droprate. That is to low?
    Actualy that is a 6.875 drop rate not 50 on weapons, you wana call someone else out on logic again?
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    Last edited by TheRac25; 01-09-2012 at 04:54 AM.