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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Hm. Yeah. My CP's still pretty low for most rotations. Food and more CP melds would help, but probably not totally worth it.

    So, gear-wise, what am I looking forward to as I get stuck at the end of HW before I actually make it to SB? The gear section of the guide felt a little unfinished. I don't see any Ironworks there, but that also sorta looks like more work than I should bother with now that 60 isn't cap. Easiest to just work up to the Augmented __Keep's gear? The i170 accessories look like a lot as well. Not sure that's something I can aim for without going the full penta-melded route, is it?
    Hi Hasrat,
    My HW guide (Part 3) "looks unfinished" for 2 reasons:
    (1) I left the game for about a year, so I completely missed out the time when the Carbonweave set and Ironworks set were released.
    (2) Now that Stormblood is here, there are cheaper alternatives than acquiring Ironworks... which I have discussed about in Part 4 of my guide (pls see Ch54: Bridging the gap Between Heavensward and Stormblood).

    I wouldn't stop you if you want Ironworks for glamor though. And they're pretty good gear to be used until level 65+ (I'd say until around level 67). Some people would even use Ironworks all the way to level 70. But I preferred to upgrade my gear to something better at around level 68.

    Please do not perform any overmelds on level 60 gear. You can freely perform any in-slot melds using any Tier IV materia to boost CP or other stats though, since you can retrieve those materia any time at 100% success rate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    You might be able to get away with just riding the 58-60(white) set until you hit 61, then upgrade to that set and skip all the 60 upgrades. The higher end recipes would be a challenge, but you can get through 60 without actually diving into the deep end if you dont want to.
    This is exactly what I would suggest.

    Grind level 58 stackable items until level 61. Then you can put on the Bloodhempen set, which is very cheap to make (so if you failed to make it HQ, you can afford to try again at very low cost, and just sell the NQ one).

    Once you hit 62, you can make and put on new mainhand tools (also cheap and fast to make).

    Once you hit 63, you can make and put on new offhand tools and accessories (also cheap and fast to make).

    So there isn't much of a point to acquire any i170/i180/i190 gear in Heavensward, especially no need to grind for rare mats or red scrips gear.
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 05-03-2018 at 09:24 PM.

    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  2. #162
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    How did I missed this guide while I was leveling my crafts to 60?! The guide is amazing and so detailed. I was going off guile mates recommendations for leveling. All my crafting classes to at least 60, with a max of 63. I did this through Moogle quest and the weekly turn ins (do to working and school). I now have the summer off and was planning to get all my gathering classes (Fis 60- other two- 67) to 70 and all my crafting classes to 70. I literally was just scanning the forums yesterday at work and found this. Questions for you:
    1- Granted I'm at 60 but you have a great guide for everything crafting- would you recommend for someone still "newish" to read from the start, sections, etc? Myself- I'm thinking of starting from the beginning.
    2- Right now I have the the Ironworks gear for crafting (I like the look). It's HQ but not fully melded. What melds would you recommended for leveling?
    3- Know any gathering guides that are as in depth as your?
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  3. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaValkyrie View Post
    1- Granted I'm at 60 but you have a great guide for everything crafting- would you recommend for someone still "newish" to read from the start, sections, etc? Myself- I'm thinking of starting from the beginning.
    2- Right now I have the the Ironworks gear for crafting (I like the look). It's HQ but not fully melded. What melds would you recommended for leveling?
    3- Know any gathering guides that are as in depth as your?
    1. If you've already reached 60 then there's probably not much in the earlier guides for you but it wouldn't hurt to skim them if you have specific questions about something such as the whistle system.

    2. CP if you're running short for your rotations but you'll level fast enough that melding isn't necessary. The only times you'd really need melds is if you're looking to make some of the LV 60 2-4 star items and that would only be for glams or furniture really.

    3. I haven't really looked for gathering guides but they aren't necessary. Collectibles are easily the biggest source of XP for you, just look at whatever the highest XP turnins are and do those. Leves are also great if you have the allowances for them. Gathering regular mats doesn't offer much XP but if you're farming stacks for your crafting classes it will add up fast.

    Gathering classes don't need melds or overmelds until you hit 70 and start going for the star items. Just keep your gear current and you'll be fine. If you have augmented red scrip gear from lv 60 or overmelded ironworks gear it will last you until 70 easily.

    If you need to know where some unspoiled nodes are, there are a couple websites that have it.
    https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Main_Page
    https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/FF14_Wiki
    http://www.ffxivclock.com/#/
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ring&sle=true#
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaValkyrie View Post
    How did I missed this guide while I was leveling my crafts to 60?! The guide is amazing and so detailed. I was going off guile mates recommendations for leveling. All my crafting classes to at least 60, with a max of 63. I did this through Moogle quest and the weekly turn ins (do to working and school). I now have the summer off and was planning to get all my gathering classes (Fis 60- other two- 67) to 70 and all my crafting classes to 70. I literally was just scanning the forums yesterday at work and found this. Questions for you:
    1- Granted I'm at 60 but you have a great guide for everything crafting- would you recommend for someone still "newish" to read from the start, sections, etc? Myself- I'm thinking of starting from the beginning.
    2- Right now I have the the Ironworks gear for crafting (I like the look). It's HQ but not fully melded. What melds would you recommended for leveling?
    3- Know any gathering guides that are as in depth as your?
    Thanks very much for the compliments.

    1) Much like Alien_Gamer said above, there isn't much to go through in the earlier guides. However, if you consider yourself "newish", you can check out:
    Ch8: The Basic Mechanics of Crafting -- which includes a very nice graph showing you when the HQ rate suddenly goes high.
    Ch10: Cross Class Skills -- which may show you some tricks involving Manip that you may not know.
    Ch11: Crafting Conditions -- which you may or may not know.
    Ch12A: Generating a Crafting Rotation -- you probably know these well already. But no harm checking.
    Ch12B: Learn to Improvise and Modify Rotations on the Spot

    2) In-slot melds for CP using Tier 4 materia. This way, you can retrieve everything at 100% rate. I do not oppose to idea of melding craft/control though if you feel the need for them. But usually CP is better. Please don't bother overmelding anything until you have acquired BiS at level 70.

    3) Personally, I have only written gathering guides from ARR to HW. Here's my HW guide: http://ffxivrealm.com/guides/ff14-he...e-tsukino.157/ This old guide is kind of outdated, but it did list out some nice gathering rotations before they changed Utmost Caution. You can still make use of those rotations by slightly tweaking the use of utmost caution there. Just remember to substitute Impulsive Appraisal with Imp App II.

    I kind of gave up gathering in Stormblood, due to not having enough play time. So I didn't write up anything for SB. However, I did manage to get all the folklore books, and trained up all my retainers. There really isn't much difference in Miner and Botanist in SB than in HW. The biggest difference lies in spear fishing, which I have barely touched. I do, however, have some general information for you regarding MIN and BTN. The links Alien_Gamer provided are all great. But I generated this picture here, which I thought was quite nice as well, since you can download it on your desktop, and opening it is a lot easier than opening web links and search for information:

    As you can see, I have even included the one rotation you need there. So you won't forget. And I have already arranged all the items by time, so you can go through them according to your clock with ease.

    Lastly, one information I figured is that the threshold gathering stats for your lv 70 retainer is 1150 Gathering. This is a critical number, as the items gathered by the retainer will increase by 1/3. To reach this number, your retainer will likely need some Ala Mhigan gear/tools.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  5. #165
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    Hey there, kind of a tricky question. I read in the update logs that the auto-synth (I presume it's called like that, don't know the name in English) will now have less chance to work, which is completely stupid since it should be here to save some time when you have to craft the same object multiple times. Since I always gather the precise number of material for my crafts, I won't have enough trust to use the function anymore. My question here is: is there some kind of way to emulate the auto-synth? Maybe with a macro or something?
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  6. #166
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    All I saw on that was "Quick Synthesis success rates have been increased". Which would make more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    All I saw on that was "Quick Synthesis success rates have been increased". Which would make more sense.
    Huh, weird, maybe a mistranslation then? In French, it says: "Le taux de réussite des synthèses rapides a été abaissé." which would translate in English by "The success rate of quick synthesis has been lowered.".

    Ok, just checked the Japanese logs, it does say that the rate of success has been augmented. So, this was clearly a mistranslation, sorry for the useless question.
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    Last edited by Kalayel; 05-22-2018 at 02:36 AM.

  8. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalayel View Post
    So, this was clearly a mistranslation, sorry for the useless question.
    No such thing as useless questions, good to clear up
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  9. #169
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalayel View Post
    Ok, just checked the Japanese logs, it does say that the rate of success has been augmented. So, this was clearly a mistranslation, sorry for the useless question.
    Glad it's cleared up!

    Btw, look!



    YAYYY! Kurenai! <3
    "Raising her satisfaction level to maximum" does sound really kinky though! LOL!
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 05-22-2018 at 08:00 AM.

    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  10. #170
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaValkyrie View Post
    ... - Know any gathering guides that are as in depth as your?
    There is no one who comes close to Caimie. I have found other guides, none ether as clear nor as deep.
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