FF14 Advanced Crafting Guide (Part 4 Stormblood) by Caimie Tsukino

[Caimie_Tsukino]

I've been reaching 70 in my DOHs by spamming the level 62 /64 leves. As such, I have crafting nothing over level 65.

I am wearing mostly level 65/66 HQ left side and tools with the augmented red script accessories melded with IVs and close to max CP. So I am hitting 70 with the following stats :

Craft 1064, Control 930, CP 403 (these are on a specialist class)

In your guide, you say this :

The following macros require very minimal stats from level 70 crafters. When I developed these macros, I had 1265 craftsmanship and 1126 control.

Obviously I am quite a ways from this so I am hoping that the level 70 gear will make up that stat difference, but my question is do you think I will be able to craft the level 70 290 i level gear with my current stats or am I going to need to wade into the messiness that is +65 crafting recipes as an intermediary step? Or can I just buy the level 70 NQ set somewhere?

This is the kind of situation which a crafting simulator really shines - http://ffxiv-beta.lokyst.net/#/simulator
I plugged in your stats, simulated myself to consume a Baked Onion Soup HQ, and look what I got here:

(I purposely left out the last step of completion here... there's still 5 durab remaining.)

Yeah, it's not a 100% secure rotation since I used 2x Rapid Syn II, 1x Patient Touch and 1x Hasty Touch. But you know what, it's likely going to work just fine. I started from zero quality here. And I already have nearly 2K quality over the top. If you have a tad bit more CP (like, if you use the Cunning Craftsman's Tea HQ to add 13 more CP), you can even use Ingenuity near the end of the rotation to buff your Byregot and those Careful Synthesis II's. Imagine if you use a few pieces of HQ mat, it's going straight to 100% HQ for sure.

Don't forget there's also Trick of the Trade along the way, which you can take. Or, you can use those Goods to boost your touches as well...

Let's just say, for sure that, YES, you have plenty of stats to HQ the i290 gear! But can you do it? Well, it's time to practice!

[Shadygrove]

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Obviously I am quite a ways from this so I am hoping that the level 70 gear will make up that stat difference, but my question is do you think I will be able to craft the level 70 290 i level gear with my current stats or am I going to need to wade into the messiness that is +65 crafting recipes as an intermediary step? Or can I just buy the level 70 NQ set somewhere?

The L70, iL 290 armor is available from the vendor in Ala Migho. Around 30Kish gil each piece.

[Kuraran]

Ello and thanks for the guide first of all :3

I'm still fairly new to crafting so this'll help a lot. I still have two questions though and would be glad, if those could be answer @@

1. Which of the avaialable cross-class skills should I actually cross class? I'm kinda lost on this one since I don't really know, which I should use of those and which I shouldn't
2. I only recently managed to get my first crafter to 70 and bought a set of ilvl 290 hq crafted crafting gear (left side) as well as the MH/OH tools for that crafter. I'd like to know, how I need to meld that gear or if it's even necessary that I have to meld it, since I'm kinda confused what I should actually meld for those pieces @@

Thanks in advance :3

[Roth_Trailfinder]

Melding : Generally speaking, outside of some few scenarios, you generally want to meld to get close to max CP, then enough Craftsmanship that you meet the minimums, and finally, any extra space you have, Control. I’d wait, though, for serious melding. There’s a new patch coming out that may increase the requirements for crafting stuff over current 2 star requirements.

Personally, I tend to leave the MH/OH tools mostly blank (just some CP) to meld more Craft/Control if I find myself unable to make new stuff.

Cross Class Skills : These really depend, big time, upon what you are doing and, more specifically, what rotation you are using. Quite simply, if your rotation does not call for Waste Not, there is no reason to have it slotted in.However, even if it is not currently slotted in, you can still have it on your bar for use when you DO slot it in. Cross class moves I’m using a lot making 2 star stuff : Maker’s Mark, Flawless Synthesis, *Innovation, *Piece by Piece, *Tricks of the Trade, *Careful Synthesis 2, Ingenuity 2, *Byregot’s Blessing, *Comfort Zone, *Steady Hand 2. Those marked with an Asterisk are usually used even if I’m doing something lower level, those without the Asterisk may be swapped out for Waste Not, Rapid Synthesis.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Ello and thanks for the guide first of all :3

You're welcome!

I'm still fairly new to crafting so this'll help a lot. I still have two questions though and would be glad, if those could be answer @@

1. Which of the avaialable cross-class skills should I actually cross class? I'm kinda lost on this one since I don't really know, which I should use of those and which I shouldn't
2. I only recently managed to get my first crafter to 70 and bought a set of ilvl 290 hq crafted crafting gear (left side) as well as the MH/OH tools for that crafter. I'd like to know, how I need to meld that gear or if it's even necessary that I have to meld it, since I'm kinda confused what I should actually meld for those pieces @@

Thanks in advance :3

1. Trick of Trade, Comfort Zone, Steady Hand II, Byregot's Blessing, Piece by Piece, Muscle Memory, Hasty Touch, Ingenuity II, Innovation, Careful Syn II... These are my general common cross class skills. However, you can't use them all for all your classes. Some classes will have sufficient slots to equip them all, others may not. For instance, since both Trick of Trade and Comfort Zone on the list came from ALC, ALC will have no prob equipping them all. But since none of them came from LTW, LTW will not be able to equip them all. Also, some recipes may need Maker's Mark, Flawless Syn or Ingenuity I. Thus, for different classes and different recipes, you will have to adjust accordingly. But at least, if you are going to use Maker's Mark & Flawless Syn, you can be certain to safely take out Muscle Memory, since MaMa+FS and MuMe are mutually exclusive. Trick of Trade is pretty much a "must-have" for any manual crafting. Comfort Zone, Steady Hand II and Byregot's Blessing as well... They're pretty much essential. So I wouldn't take them off my cross class list at any given time. If you don't really know what cross-class skills you should keep, you should really test them out yourself! That's really the best way to find out! I'm not kidding!

2. The fact that you bought a set of ilevel 290 gear (and together with the question asking us what cross class skills should be used) kind of tells me that you don't craft much... It's actually fairly easy to make those i290 gear yourself to save a million gil. The point of melding, is to gain that extra stats so that you can macro certain rotations. If you're not massively producing things with macros, you don't need to meld too many materia. Manual crafting has always been, and will always be more powerful than macro crafting. If you manual craft, you can save yourself a lot of expensive melds. To be frank, if you don't plan to craft a lot, don't bother spending on materia to meld. It's a money-drain, and the investment will only return if you craft A LOT of things to sell.

In Ch59, I have discussed about the requirements for 2 star crafting and beyond. I recommended 1320 craftsmanship, 1220 control and 490 CP (after using food) on i290 gear set. I never recommended melding much on MH or OH. Personally, I only had one CP materia on each of the MH or OH.

[Kuraran]

Thanks a bunch for answering my questions Roth and Caimie^^

As for how much I want to craft in the future.... I really don't know yet, since I'm still in the middle of leveling up my crafters to 70 (only one at 70 so far is LTW) and I still need to level up BTN and MIN so I can gather specific mats on my own as well @.@

As for the stat-thresholds I should be shooting for, another question:

Is the recommended value of 1320 craftsmanship, 1220 control and 490 only necessary for macro crafting or should I also aim for those values if I prefer manual crafting?
Also in the guide, there are other values mentioned for harder recipies. I'm still ways away from those anyway, but are those the values needed to successfully manual craft the mentioned recipies? >_<

Thanks in advance again

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Thanks a bunch for answering my questions Roth and Caimie^^

As for how much I want to craft in the future.... I really don't know yet, since I'm still in the middle of leveling up my crafters to 70 (only one at 70 so far is LTW) and I still need to level up BTN and MIN so I can gather specific mats on my own as well @.@

As for the stat-thresholds I should be shooting for, another question:

Is the recommended value of 1320 craftsmanship, 1220 control and 490 only necessary for macro crafting or should I also aim for those values if I prefer manual crafting?
Also in the guide, there are other values mentioned for harder recipies. I'm still ways away from those anyway, but are those the values needed to successfully manual craft the mentioned recipies? >_<

Thanks in advance again

My recommended value of 1320/1220/490 (after food consumption) is for macro-ing 2 star recipes, and manual crafting special 2 star recipes (i320 gear and i325 tools) using all-i290 gear. This way, one can DIY on all the i320/i325s. Since this value has taken account food consumption, the base stats will depend on what food you choose. If you choose a craft+CP food, your base stats after melding and before food consumption will be <1320/1220/<490.

However, at this point of the game, it may be easier to just ask an omni-crafter to help you craft out the i320 and i325. This way, you can save yourself from melding the i290 gear, which would otherwise be immediately replaced by the i320/i325.

For the i320/i325 gear set, I recommended 1584 craftsmanship (after food consumption) in Ch63. CP should be close to max, and control should be as much as you can afford. This value is for macro-ing special 2 star recipes.

[RayneLittlewinkle]

Can't wait to read and see your updated stuff about the patch! Thank you for taking the time to make guides

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Well, the new stuff ain't too hard:


I'm just enjoying the new glam like this Winter Sweater below, and furniture like the new outdoor onsen!

[Cannylite978]

Has anybody figured out where the new akamhigan weave and holy linen drop/are acquired?