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  1. #1
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    Shaorankun's Avatar
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    Shaoran Kun
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    Siren
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    Summoner Lv 70

    Kugane tower jump

    Lots people enjoy these jumping trials and even want more and I respect that.

    I know, many have made it to the top and on the street lamp post.
    But I can't.

    Well I've made it once in 4.0 and it didn't make me feel ecstatic.
    Succeeding this kind of "trial" does not make "victory" so much more enjoyable and precious when you finaly get it.

    For me it was more akin to when you have to take a very disgusting medicine. You don't want to do it but once you've taken it you just feel relieved that you will never have to experience that ever again.

    Then an other vista where you need to climb was added...

    And this time I just can't. I spent many hours trying to reach the top and I always get stuck in some part of the building or the camera angles are impossible and, I'll be perfectly honest, I'm very very bad at platforming.

    One day I hope this will get nerfed by making the different studs bigger or whatever but I'm not holding my breath.

    I'm not asking for anything, this was mostly a venting post.
    And I just wanted to tell SE:

    Thank you for making some part of your game an incredible source of frustration.

    Take care.
    (29)

  2. #2
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    Cyreil's Avatar
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    Zyreil'a Yeren
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    Balmung
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    I don't think it would be so bad if the geometry actually lined up and made sense. A lot of those beams that stick out the building make you jump and land where it doesn't actually look like you are even touching them.
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  3. #3
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Cerberus
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyreil View Post
    I don't think it would be so bad if the geometry actually lined up and made sense. A lot of those beams that stick out the building make you jump and land where it doesn't actually look like you are even touching them.
    Yeah.

    That's what irritates me about the 'challenge'. Many of the jumps don't involve landing on the actual beams - they involve jumping on the thin air just outside of the beam itself. So if you aim for the beam? You fall off. It's very frustrating.

    The game isn't really designed for jumping puzzles in the first place, though.
    (32)

  4. #4
    Player MyaValentine's Avatar
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    Diana Prince
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 70
    that has more to do with collisions and you will find that in pretty much 99% of the games, we can't possibly make a perfect collision for the body of a character it's usually just a basic box around the character making it more "complex" is just unnesesary stress on the system just to cater to people who can't do a jump minipuzzle. All and all is doable and plenty of people have done and all you are going to get is "git gud" that's all there's to it. if you can't don't do it. if you are a completinzionist then suck it up and "git gud".
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  5. #5
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    It took me 2 hours to climb that tower...and while it felt good to actually do it, I won't be making that journey again for anything. The rage was real.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Even if the game clearly isnt really made for jump puzzles, I feel that this is also a bit a case of "Its an extra thing in the game for the people who enjoy doing it" - meaning: If you dont, you can just let it be.

    Not everyone has to like every aspect of the game - thats the beauty of having all those little things in there, that are something extra if you want to do it.
    I suck at platforming and sure, this game isnt made for it, but once I had figured out how to adjust for certain jumps, I had lots of fun trying some jumps! If I recally correctly those sightseeing logs got added in the first place because players figured out crazy parts of the world they wanted and could reach by performing weird jumps - so its not something that was intended in the first place, but now its there and something extra and special for the kind of people it appeals to.

    If you're not amongst them - thats okay. Yes, the jumps are frustrating and you have to try again and again - and you can do that. And if you dont feel like doing it anymore: Leave it be. For an hour, for the day, for a week, forever. If you dont get anything out of it but the feeling of taking disgusting medicine... why are you bothering with this content?
    Sorry, to me this sounds as if you're brother is sick and you want to take his medicine too, even though you dont need it.

    TL,DR.: Not everyone has to do everything in the game - pick what you like and dont get stuck on stuff you dont enjoy!
    (4)

  7. #7
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    Man I love jumping on stuff and loved to climb on things before they added vistas. Still I don't know if it was right for them to make sightseeing this punishing. I don't mind things being difficult, but there's a difference between hard and punishing... that punishment of having 1 missed jump erase a whole bunch of progress made. I say that as somebody who managed to clear all the patch 4.1 vistas. The dropdown from tower to lamp post made me nervous as heck. Yeah, I don't know if just wanting to explore and unlock lore snippets should feel that bad. I will still do it if they keep up that kind of challenge, but I can understand people saying it's too much.
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  8. #8
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    Kahnom's Avatar
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    Arlizz Teirez
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It took me 2 hours to climb that tower...and while it felt good to actually do it, I won't be making that journey again for anything. The rage was real.
    I'm with you.I had spent almost 8 hours to get to the top before 4.1 and I swear to myself I'm not gonna climb that shit again.
    Now 4.1 has added Log 53 in Kugane ... I've already get all other spots completed except this one and I'm sure as hell I'm not gonna touch this log ever,Even they add awesome reward from archievement later.
    Screw that tower.
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  9. #9
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    Lilseph's Avatar
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    In order to succesfully complete and understand that jumping puzzle, you must become Neo from The Matrix. So many invisible spots, roofs and walls because of the bad hitboxs. You need to "see" through the code.
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  10. #10
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    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Character
    Lady Zelda
    World
    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 92
    I legit got farther than I ever have a couple days ago and then I got called to do a raid.
    It was at that point that time just stopped for me because I knew if I got down, I would never go back again. so I logged.
    Next day, came on, forgot what I was doing, fell off the tower.
    Realized what I was doing up there.
    logged out.
    /cried internally.
    rip tower.
    (3)

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