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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryis View Post
    they already said that they will bring it race unlock in a future patch so we will get it.
    They said they would look at it. They never promised to do it. Provide a link to the statement please where they said they were working on it. And you've made your views pretty clear with reference to wanting to wear the Highlander top/straps on your Miqo'te. It's pretty transparent why you'd like to see that unlocked. I sincerely hope it never happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    And you've made your views pretty clear with reference to wanting to wear the Highlander top/straps on your Miqo'te. It's pretty transparent why you'd like to see that unlocked. I sincerely hope it never happens.
    Who cares if someone wants it so they can hooch it up some more? I personally find the highlander hempen hideous, but who honestly cares what other people use it for? There is no reason why underwear should be viewed as a racial piece of clothing.

    We have somehow managed to get our hands on native-american styled garb, plenty of 'far-eastern' outfits and some Victorian (?) style dresses, yet somehow the people of Eorzea just can't bring themselves to copy the underwear style of another race? This game is all about fan service. Stop trying to hide behind lore reasons, as that went out the window ages ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Stop trying to hide behind lore reasons, as that went out the window ages ago.
    I'm not hiding behind anything. I strongly believe that there should be difference between the races and that includes some specific clothing that identifies them such as the hempen set. There are some pretty classic differences there which I might add I enjoy tremendously with my alts. I'm all for glamour and the more the better but I'm also in favor of race specific clothing that make each race special. I'd like to see more of it, not less.

    And it didn't go out my window by the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I'm not hiding behind anything. I strongly believe that there should be difference between the races and that includes some specific clothing that identifies them such as the hempen set. There are some pretty classic differences there which I might add I enjoy tremendously with my alts. I'm all for glamour and the more the better but I'm also in favor of race specific clothing that make each race special. I'd like to see more of it, not less.

    And it didn't go out my window by the way.
    I can understand having a personal desire to see race locked clothes, but there is really no valid excuse to keep them race locked outside of the devs not wanting to put in the effort. If they do get unlocked, there is no reason why you would have to start using them on your characters, but it would open up a lot of glamour opportunities for others. Is a miqo wearing hyur undies any worse than that bikini tank we have all run into during dungeon runs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I can understand having a personal desire to see race locked clothes, but there is really no valid excuse to keep them race locked outside of the devs not wanting to put in the effort. If they do get unlocked, there is no reason why you would have to start using them on your characters, but it would open up a lot of glamour opportunities for others. I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem like a miqo wearing hyur undies would be any worse than that bikini tank we've all run into during dungeon runs.
    Well we can agree to disagree. Obviously you feel differently and you entitled to your opinion. I want to be sure my voice is heard as well. If it happens well fine but personally I don't think it will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
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    You're missing the point. The Highlander hempen is clearly designed around the Highlander body and lore. Miqo'te are also race locked out of muscle sliders because they aren't race appropriate. Differences between races are believable, normal and encourage the use of Fantasias (a solid impetus for SE not to change the status quo)

    Further, I'd argue that it's precisely because Hempen is racially locked that it's so interesting. It's nice to have glamour options that aren't instantly off-putting because they're being worn by thousands of default catgirls in your server alone. The bikini tank you mention is a lore quirk but that's irrelevant, it's overused, boring and ultimately this has been avoided with Hempen simply by keeping it restricted to it's various races.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibkee View Post
    You're missing the point. The Highlander hempen is clearly designed around the Highlander body and lore. Miqo'te are also race locked out of muscle sliders because they aren't race appropriate. Differences between races are believable, normal and encourage the use of Fantasias (a solid impetus for SE not to change the status quo)

    Further, I'd argue that it's precisely because Hempen is racially locked that it's so interesting. It's nice to have glamour options that aren't instantly off-putting because they're being worn by thousands of default catgirls in your server alone. The bikini tank you mention is a lore quirk but that's irrelevant, it's overused, boring and ultimately this has been avoided with Hempen simply by keeping it restricted to it's various races.
    Actually I think you're missing the point, it's a piece of clothing, not some holy relic that only responds to those of true blood. >.>

    Holding these hostage for Fantasias sales? Really? How does that work exactly? I mean for me, I like the look of a female Highlander, but I hate their Hempen set. I do however like the look of the female Midlander hempen set but I don't like the look of the Midlander females. Why on earth would I fantasia to a race choice I don't like? Here's a hint, I wouldn't!

    Really all I read in your post is a personal distaste for all the catgirls running around being your main problem with the set losing the racial lock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
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    Whether you would fantasia for glam or not is irrelevant, people do and many on this forum (when this thread has appeared previously) have admitted to doing so for Hempen alone. The differences between miqo'te, au ra and midlander females are negligible in many people's eyes and something as small as unique underwear can swing the decision.

    Here's the rub: I'm a Highlander and I hate Highlander Hempen and never actually use it. But it was designed for Highlander, clearly from both a physical and lore POV, and is another unique aspect of the race. Making all the races the same is not the answer and it's clearly not a policy SE is on board with.

    And yes, the fascination with Elezen, Roe and Highlander Hempen is primarily because there aren't a plethora of catgirls running around with it right now. That's a good thing.
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    Last edited by Ibkee; 10-23-2017 at 12:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibkee View Post
    You're missing the point. The Highlander hempen is clearly designed around the Highlander body and lore. Miqo'te are also race locked out of muscle sliders because they aren't race appropriate. Differences between races are believable
    This, this bit right here.. is actually completely wrong. The clothes have nothing to do with lore. Miqo'tes not having a muscle slider has nothing to do with lore.

    1. Starting with the clothes first, how is the Highlander hempen made for Highlander bodies again? Where's the lore for that? How is the Midlander tank top made for just Midlanders? Where's the lore for that? A highlander female body isn't radically different from Midlander or even Miqo'te body. One of the only differences between them is just that highlanders are taller and can have larger busts, which btw, can be put to 0 slider. So no not form.

    Answer: It has nothing to do with lore at all. It is a remnant of the 1.0 programming where the each race had a specially built hempen set that they could use to equip in an Undergarments section. This is no longer in the game. But the coding is still active.

    2. Are you seriously saying that Miqo'tes and Au Ra-like races are incapable of gaining muscle? Whaaat? Where is the lore for that? Can you find it? Where is the lore explaining how Miqo'te were much thicker in the past? Where is the lore explaining why they mysteriously can't get any muscles?

    Answer: There isn't any. The real reason is because due to 1.0 coding, each race and gender had a certain amount of customizable features. Elezens with ears, Miqo'tes with tails. While others had muscle sliders. Also, Miqo'te lore says that they have strong legs for jumping. Yet their legs are skinny. Why? Because SE. Not lore.

    http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Miqo%27te
    The groups share a superb sense of smell and powerful leg muscles, results of a long evolution geared towards hunting and predation.
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    Last edited by Magic-Mal; 10-23-2017 at 03:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic-Mal View Post
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    Was gonna respond to the person you quoted, but you said basically everything I was gonna.

    Also, TIL: Screw the butt slider, I need thicc miqos.
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