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    Galaktica's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
    People talk as if this exclusively requires them to take away from another issue, or that it has to be a "focus." Sometimes I forget that Square Enix is a small indie company working out of Yoshida's garage.
    It's precisely because they're not an indie company that they can't implement this change all willy nilly. They have budgets and development roadmaps planned out months and years in advance. They don't just walk into the office every morning and go "well, what should we do today? Huh, we need more artists? OPEN THE MONEY VAULTS ASAP!" Adding the hempen sets to every race would require what I can only assume is a handful of artists and 3d modelers and whoever else. If SE hasn't decided to work on this already, then yes, that literally means taking them off of and therefore detracting from more important stuff like new tome sets and other glamour items. They could outsource it, but again, there's a budget to keep in mind. It probably wouldn't be super expensive, but maybe they feel that money would be better spent elsewhere.

    Again, I wanna stress the fact that I am in favor of this change. I also just want to stress the fact that this isn't as simple and clear cut as people make it out to be. It's obviously not as complicated as fixing the housing crisis for example, but it's still something that takes time and planning.

    Someone is probably gonna get mad at me for trying to be reasonable again though. I don't know why I even bother tbh...
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    Last edited by Galaktica; 10-24-2017 at 08:10 PM.

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    Shion Sumeragi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaktica View Post
    -snip-
    It's less that anyone is making this clear cut and more just that people want to see it happen, and that it is possible. I was simply addressing that it is not as if them deciding to work on this will ultimately take away from anything else. No one can prove that, so it is pointless to say. Even in their own excuse, they wanted only 1 dungeon for odd numbered patches for extra content like eureka, ultimate, stuff like bard songs, etc. We were supposed to get those this patch. Most were delayed. There was no equivalent exchange as people like to argue.
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    KeyboardFacerollname's Avatar
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    I would like the hempen sets unlocked for all races, simply because some of the other races sets look better or would go better with glam ideas(I really like the Elezen lady hempen top and would love to wear it on my Roegadame).

    If people are hung up on "lore reasons" they can simply add "Roegadyn Fashion Designer" to Limsa that sells Roegadyn-style fashions but tailored for other races, or maybe gives a quest that allows DoH to learn how to craft the outfits(the outfits would be low level WVR/LTW stuff, but let all DoH do the quest). Bada bingo, lore reasons are satisfied(There's really no reason an Elezen can't think "Man, I really like that Hyuran Chemisette. If only I could get one tailored to fit me. If only there was some sort of tailor that could tail clothing!")
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    Anarista Tarnyang
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    If anything, they should bring back the undergarment slot. The default underwear has to go.
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Where it's frustrating is that a lot of the designs are basic, ordinary clothing shapes; to use an example, if the Miqo'te female top is deemed to be too cultural to share, can we at least get a similar vest for everyone else with different stitching or dye patterns or something? For males, can we please have some kind of actual loincloth all jobs can wear? Why can't anyone wear halternecks other than a single subset of Hyur? And how relevant are these items anyway? My friend only knew they existed because I bought her a set for a POTD adventure the other day, it's not as though they feature heavily in the lore or background like the FFXI equivalent. Race optimisation is fine when it makes sense, like tail decorations or ear pouches (however controversial). This does not make sense.

    I think even slightly modified patterns or stitching to make the racial variants special would be fine so long as the gaps in our wardrobes are filled. It's easier for them to adapt the existing designs than make up new ones though - most (if not all) will only need the modelling team rather than going all the way back to the drawing board - so it makes sense to press for that as a solution. S-E is plainly interested in helping so second-guessing their resource management skills doesn't seem worthwhile.
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    The original racial sets I agree should stay racial, even if the relation they have to their races' actual cultures seem dubious at best. It's still the case that all the promotions and advertisements featuring these races show them in their race-specific starter gear, so those items really do have a strong racial association to them from the get-go.

    The hempen sets, however... I don't have an issue with spreading these around. Perhaps the split variants could be named things like "Highlander Chemise" or "Elezen Underpants" to keep the original racial source in memory.

    That said, I can't decide whether seeing a Lala girl decked out in Highlander bondage undies would be more hilarious or disturbing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    That said, I can't decide whether seeing a Lala girl decked out in Highlander bondage undies would be more hilarious or disturbing...
    They can already wear bikinis and do this, I think that's the last thing anyone should worry about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    They can already wear bikinis and do this, I think that's the last thing anyone should worry about.
    lol, I wish I had as much creativity.
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    Mari Sakamoto
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    Why would I want to see muscly Roedagyn/Elezen/Highlander/Au Ra male wearing female version hempen garb?

    I mean people have their own kinks, but I am good enough seeing people wear yoga pants locally where I live in IRL. I don't need to see some unisex skimpy outfits in game. Hi Blade and Soul.
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldotsk View Post
    Why would I want to see muscly Roedagyn/Elezen/Highlander/Au Ra male wearing female version hempen garb?

    I mean people have their own kinks, but I am good enough seeing people wear yoga pants locally where I live in IRL. I don't need to see some unisex skimpy outfits in game. Hi Blade and Soul.
    What are you talking about? This is about female Lalafell wearing female Highlander underwear (and other combinations like that).

    A lot of the male underwear is already skimpier than the female versions since there's no need to cover our breasts. If you hate unisex gear, just avoid wearing it and move on with your life.
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