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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryis View Post
    have a special npc that sales these in a town and just put as their names: Hempen: hyur (of all of the races)
    cash shop
    market board
    grand company seals

    just thinking off the top of my head.
    No cash shop!
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    i am just saying as a option that they could do with it. i would prefer the special npc thing myself or market bored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeaconMoore View Post
    No cash shop!
    i am just saying as a option that they could do with it. i would prefer the special npc thing myself or market bored. (i thought i click on the reply with quote)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryis View Post
    i am just saying as a option that they could do with it. i would prefer the special npc thing myself or market bored. (i thought i click on the reply with quote)
    And I'm just saying it's a horrible option to put existing gear behind a paywall.
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    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    While we're at it... wtf is up with the male miqote hempen undershirt? It's just a square covering one pectoral and some straps to hold it... that's not a shirt.... it's a glorified pastey
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    Honestly every armor should have a racial style applied to it.

    Why just the Hempen eh?
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    Shion Sumeragi
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    There is nothing lore specific about underwear and the fact anyone has even tried to imply that is absolutely and utterly ridiculous.

    It is one thing to say you don't want it, or even say you don't want it because screw miqo'te, but to create a fake, flimsy argument is another thing entirely.

    I will never understand people who seriously oppose more freedom towards wearing different armor/clothing. It'd be like saying that Summoner should never get any additional egis, that there should never be extra housing wards, or that you should never be able to dye AF gear. It'd be like justifying or encouraging that mogstation gear remain character-locked and not account-wide. It'd be like opposing the male bunny outfit just for the sake of keeping it unique solely to women. It just makes no sense to me at all. Limiting options just to limit them would make sense if people took that stance with everything, but taking it with specific things to push their agenda is a bit disgusting. I've seen people in previous threads and in this thread oppose or support the previous things I've stated multiple times, yet every time disagree with this. The same people whining about how summoners should have additional egis/egi glamours and then simultaneously saying that hempen gear should remain locked just because? It makes no sense to me. Even less when the same people who constantly whine and complain about the male bunny outfit not existing try to seriously justify wanting to lock the hempen sets. Especially when depending on who you ask, they have no business wearing anything of the sort. I'm fine with it, personally, but yeah.

    As for my particular stake on hempen gear, I don't really care. I think the Midlander female top is cute, but I've been a Midlander before and may do it again. I'm mostly posting my two cents because I just dislike seeing posts that say, "limit options for generally no good reason except my personal preference and nothing more." The game is made to cater to the experience of a community, not an individual. There will be things you dislike that the majority will like, get over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oscura View Post
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    While I take issue with much of this post, one glaring flaw, that I'm sure both sides can agree is misguided, is your assertion that everyone should have access to everything.
    All races should have all Hempen of all races/genders
    All races should have all racial starter gear of all races/genders
    All jobs should have all AF
    All characters should have all hairstyles, body customisation and add-ons.
    Everyone should be the same.

    Not only is this thinking a dangerous precedent for a game already lacking variety, but it clearly isn't the direction SE intend to take us. The options are limited by SE, not by us, whether they do that because your proposed changes would nerf the Fantasia moneytrain is conjecture on my part, but they have their reasons and the system works well enough that it's unlikely to change at this point.

    Meanwhile, they keep coming out with new clothing options for all, underwear included. I'm sure the same will continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ibkee View Post
    While I take issue with much of this post, one glaring flaw, that I'm sure both sides can agree is misguided, is your assertion that everyone should have access to everything.
    All races should have all Hempen of all races/genders
    All races should have all racial starter gear of all races/genders
    All jobs should have all AF
    All characters should have all hairstyles, body customisation and add-ons.
    Everyone should be the same.

    Not only is this thinking a dangerous precedent for a game already lacking variety, but it clearly isn't the direction SE intend to take us. The options are limited by SE, not by us, whether they do that because your proposed changes would nerf the Fantasia moneytrain is conjecture on my part, but they have their reasons and the system works well enough that it's unlikely to change at this point.

    Meanwhile, they keep coming out with new clothing options for all, underwear included. I'm sure the same will continue.
    My assertion that everyone should have access to everything? Would you mind actually reading my post next time? My post specifically mentions that I do not understand how someone could oppose more options despite encouraging more options for things that align to it or are similar. Either that, or opposing something out of sheer spite for a group or particular racial choice and nothing more than that.

    Quite literally, not even once, did I ever mention anywhere in my post, that everyone should have access to everything. It wasn't an even implication. I even specifically stated my personal stance towards this hempen thing is complete and total apathy. I was specifically addressing that opposing things for the sake of opposing them or opposing a group of people is just honestly a bit too pretentious for me. Please work on your reading comprehension.
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    I don’t understand being so precious over underwear. For most people you won’t even see it; if the game’s population of exhibitionists is so desperate for clothing that shows a little skin that literally everyone will switch to Hempen glamours and stop wearing anything else, we’d have a serious gear design issue. But there’s no evidence of that and a few dozen catgirls in sexy straps won’t spoil anything for anyone reasonable. There's nothing so outrageous in any of the Hempen designs to make me think they couldn't work on all body types with some minor modifications to accommodate different shapes. They're almost all normal, ordinary, mundane clothing types you can find anywhere in the world outside of the game.

    I have never seen any evidence that giving people more things leads to less diversity. The more options, the more glamour variety possible. I might try the Elezen top with the Au Ra loincloth; that combination doesn’t even exist now so that’s an increase in aesthetic diversity right away.
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    Last edited by Serilda; 10-23-2017 at 04:28 PM.

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