Monk

[Vackashken]

"The only way to cure a fool is to let him die."

Not gunna lie. That is a great quote, lol.

I digress, though. Got nothing personal against you at all. To phrase yourself : "Just bustin your chops."

In all seriousness though, I was under the impression that the Fists of Fire enhancement were actually a noticeable improvement in damage. So let's put it another way : If you could always use it, wouldn't you actually be, you know, over-powered ? Balance is about being equal or as close as possible, after all, right ?

Didn't take anything you said personal at all. Don't sweat it. You could look at it that way, or we could look at it as was a drg overpowered when it had a wyvern? Take my MP away or make me have to ration it am I what I am designed to be or am I just a shell of what the designers intend? Yes indeed balance is everything but that delicate (unknown) ratio of balance is far precarious with those extra variables (needing a brd and a DD who MUST have MP) much harder to even out.

[COLOR="navy"]You realize that PGL does comparable damage to every other class without activating a single MP drain stance right? You also realize that once it activates a stance it potentially blows every other DD out of the water when it comes to 1-1 DPS. Add to this the fact that it has skills that do recover enough MP to allow a PGL to sustain MP drained by a single buff.

Untill I see some hard data on that its all conjecture. I have never seen any pug blow any other DD out of the water. If you've got it put it up.

The skills that drain MP on MNK will further increase MNK's utility in battle as well as DPS. Having so much more DPS comes with a cost - a stat you have to manage.

Not my contention.

You see, your notion of MNK becoming weaker than any other DD class is based on absolutely nothing but conjecture. That will be based entirely on the magnitude of the buffs and how much DPS a MNK is able to put out with them active.

When did I say mnk is weaker in the vein of comparable DD? I said its handicapped by comparison for always needing a sister job with it to be truly unleashed. No other DD has that handicap or requirement. Again, at this point, that point is absolutely and adamantly irrefutable.

My estimation is, basing it off how potent PGL is at this time, that MNK will be very, very powerful - but will also be high maintenance. High cost = high reward.

I tend to agree with you (shocked, eh?) about it being possibly very powerful. I hope you're right but again that isn't my point. Nobody wants a high maintenance DD in their party. Efficiency is always sought after. Basically absolutely needing a brd for a DD is a crutch. Right now, we have it easy. If we ever get a fight in this game again that takes a load of time to complete managing MP is not going to be very well received. Period.

You can continue to blindly whine about MNK requiring higher maintenance, but the fact remains at the end of the day whether or not the job is worthwhile will not depend on whether it uses MP or not. It will depend on if the power is worth the maintenance.

First, I am not whining. Secondly, at the end of the day games will always revolve around what is most efficient and works best. Having a high maintenance DD that requires special attention in the sense of needing MP and keeping that up to be able to unleash its full potential isn't the best design. Sure, you can say the effort but that is far more in the realm of theory then what I am saying.