4.11+ DRK Suggestions/Balance Changes from a "Hardcore" Player

[MahoSenshi]

I do agree that PLD was not as bad as people made it out to be in HW. They had hallowed and divine veil, which they atleast offered something to the raid.

Yeah. Invulnerability CD with a super long cooldown, which leaded to tank swaps and therefore stance changes with DPS loss and meek party shield versus DRKs constant Int debuff, higher DPS, higher mobility and better magic mitigation in a raid where most damage was magical. So you can either bring PLD *and* MNK (which was also out of the meta, thus double-crippling the raid), bring only PLD and suffer... or just bring DRK. Even with being non-meta DRK now is not close to what was in HW. Although some careful buffs are sure needed now, with that i agree.

[MagiusNecros]

This was predicted way back in FFIV

Not really. Was just a cliche plot point. Iconic sure. But cliche.

Plot armor makes for a poor argument when put toe to toe with actual stats and differences between job classes. FFIV had characters with fixed abilities and attributes.

End of discussion.

[Eyvhokan]

Not really. Was just a cliche plot point. Iconic sure. But cliche.

Plot armor makes for a poor argument when put toe to toe with actual stats and differences between job classes. FFIV had characters with fixed abilities and attributes.

End of discussion.

That wasn't intended as anything more than a quip. Did you seriously think I was justifying the balance with that?

[RLofOBFL]

I think all of those fairly reasonable. My only suggestion would be to keep Reprisal 60s and just raise it to 10%. I knew DRK was sitting pretty badly and KNEW se wouldn't do anything so I contemplated starting another DRK thread to get the point across but you did it so I didn't have to thx kopi.

[Azerhan]

The person I was replying to said to take away DRK's sword skills. NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. We all know a caster tank won't work in this game and the job doesn't need a full rework like that, you'd probably lose a whole chunk of the tank population doing that.

Wowowow, I've never said anything about a cast...
I wanted to say that all DRK abilities just doing magic attack instead of physical. Don't misunderstand me.

But why not shield that use mana to boost dps when you take dmg, like that.

[347SPECTRE]

Wowowow, I've never said anything about a cast...
I wanted to say that all DRK abilities just doing magic attack instead of physical. Don't misunderstand me.

But why not shield that use mana to boost dps when you take dmg, like that.

That doesn't make much sense seeing as you're attacking with a giant freaking sword.

[Azerhan]

That doesn't make much sense seeing as you're attacking with a giant freaking sword.

Put a "magic fx" on it and it's ok, you have a magic based weapon. You can do fifty-fifty too, physical and magic.
Btw, the problem is no more a problem of logic and lore, but just of gameplay. DRK was a magic-based tank before, that was good and it was is niche, now it doesn't have nothing...
Why not that? That could be great for some fights, you'll have an advantage to bring a DRK instead of a PLD.

[Reynhart]

That doesn't make much sense seeing as you're attacking with a giant freaking sword.

It makes as much sense as a giant freaking sword hitting for less than little knives or fists

[shao32]

It makes as much sense as a giant freaking sword hitting for less than little knives or fists

Technically the giant sword hit harder in terms of potency but when You land a hit the knives and fist hit 3, drk have some of the high potency skills of the game

[PLitz]

I could agree with each of your suggested changes except for the Bloodspiller one. Lowering the Blood cost on Bloodspiller would raise the value of The Blackest Night. So much so that it would be a better MP investment than DA+SS/SE/BS. I get that the point is to make TBN feel more rewarding, but it would just turn it into a glorified Dark Arts. The proper time to use it would be "whenever it's available". I think TBN should remain at a very slight potency loss with your reward being an extra healer GCD if you time it well.