Royal City of Rabanastre Loot problem.

[Vaer]

This said, what's the point of doing the raid the first 2 or 3 weeks then ? No need to pay a sub when there is new content if i can't loot anything, don't you think ?

My answer is silly...? Well, so is yours (no offence ^^). I mean if it's this hard to have a weekly loot the first few weeks of a content, then YES, there is a problem with the loot system. Players want/need new stuff when it's new, not 3 or 4 weeks later when a newer is here.

Yeah no where did I say your answer is silly. I'm pretty sure there are people getting stuff they want in the first week. I also never said that the loot system has no problems. Actually, I said the system is bad last time I posted. First you said the RNG, then you started talking about other random people screwing your chances so I said your chance goes up if you go in a premade where you are the only role, or it goes up overtime because people get things. Never said it is fine and dandy.

[SendohJin]

This said, what's the point of doing the raid the first 2 or 3 weeks then ? No need to pay a sub when there is new content if i can't loot anything, don't you think ?

My answer is silly...? Well, so is yours (no offence ^^). I mean if it's this hard to have a weekly loot the first few weeks of a content, then YES, there is a problem with the loot system. Players want/need new stuff when it's new, not 3 or 4 weeks later when a newer is here.

the earlier in the cycle the more options you have as well. i've been trying to get the BRD body piece since week 1, after like 6 runs the first week i gave up and rolled on caster pants, after like 12 runs this weekend i gave up and rolled on caster body.

the first week i ran on my alt and saw the BRD body piece drop to the ground. people want stuff, they don't need it. if they need it for Savage after 3 months, they don't really need it.

[Rinuko]

So you complain at the games RNG?

[Bobkitty]

Personally, I just don't feel like I'm being rewarded for the amount of time spent when it comes to the RNG system (or rather, the reward does not feel like it's worth my time/effort).


A system like tomestones could work though:

You get 1x Raid Tome at the end of a run and can have a maximum amount of [x] Tomes at any given time (x = the number of Tomes needed for the most expensive piece or per piece). You can spend these Tomes at a special vendor once per week, but if you've already obtained your loot from rolling then you won't be able to make any purchases til weekly reset - vice versa.
- Reason for capping the number of tomes so people can't farm it all in one week and just spend tomes at every other reset.
- I personally recommend 8 tomes max, I just don't see the Rabanastre gear (being non-upgradeable at 330) worth anymore than that.

[Bobkitty]

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Continuing on...

An issue that may arise is an overabundance of different tomes when newer raids get released, but may be addressed by converting the raid to a token system akin to ex-primals once a new tier has been introduced or the weekly limit is lifted and implement the Tome system on the newest raid instead (after flushing the number of tomes players accumulated before the patch of course).
- Once the previous raid has been switched to a token system, they can be used to purchase other rewards (orchestrion rolls, minions etc.) as well.

[TristanBlane]

I was surprised to get to the last boss and have him drop two gloves. I thought the last boss always dropped either chest or legs??? I found that really dumb.

[whiskeybravo]

I had the same problem OP (except on SAM). Not sure how many times I ran, probably close to 20 times, but it took 10 days to finally get a drop. In that time frame I saw the belt twice (once was very first run so I didn't pick it up, 2nd time lost with a 3 roll ._.), boots once (already have genji boots), and finally the chest piece dropped this last Sunday. Didn't even get loot the first week. But anyways..

Your own post explains why they won't. Would you have ran 23 times had you been awarded a token after your first run? Would you have ran more than once at all that week? The whole purpose behind RNG based loot drops, as frustrating as they may be, is to ensure people continuously queue. The only alternative I could see maybe being considered is a token system similar to Primal farms-- where you can exchange a certain amount for what you want. Say twenty runs. That way you're eventually guaranteed to get it.

I thought about this a bit and I think the best solution would be to have 1 normal weekly restricted, and being awarded 1 token per run that can be exchanged for one more piece of chosen loot each week. Exchange rates similar to other token gear (4 belt, 6 head/hands/feet, 8 chest/legs) would encourage people to keep running throughout the week instead of just 1 & done. Also would help keep people from dropping out halfway through after they get their drop. IDK, I think they could make it work though.

[Vaer]

I was surprised to get to the last boss and have him drop two gloves. I thought the last boss always dropped either chest or legs??? I found that really dumb.

Nah. Each piece of gear can drop from two separate bosses in the raid. Chest can drop from 3rd and 4th.

Can check the loot list here: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...y/ae1bf71a899/

They changed it sometime after ARR because people were leaving immediately after the one boss that dropped what they wanted if it didn't drop. The bard body from the 2nd boss in WoD one of the main ones where I saw this happen a lot. Bards would just peace out if it didn't drop.