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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    do you think this could be used to place a rug on the troupe stage at all?
    Never say never, but I think we're going to need another trick to get that one in most scenarios. They don't stick to tabletops and they don't seem to want to attach to walls or pillars, either. They'll gladly sit on top of railings and the open window in the top of larges, but that seems to be about it. It might be related to the centerpoint of the rug not actually intersecting with the plane that objects settle on when they're floated on walls, but I'm not certain at all.
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    Although it's of dubious usefulness, table top and wall mounted items can be easily attached to the ceiling now.



    Same way I did the partitions and Sindele did the rug.
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    N'yuuki Nekohmi
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    Great... thanks for fixing such a fabulous glitch in the most ass backwards way SE. Now I'll never be able to snug my partitions up against my walls again. I'm so annoyed with this entire patch.

    +1 for them un-fixing the float glitch.
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    I can 100% confirm that troupe stages and a majority of nontable items such as partition, mounted bookcases (the entire wall types), etc. can still be placed in the positions to create lofts prior to 4.2. It takes a large bit of creativity. I will not post here how it is done as to preserve this method as long as possible.
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    Last edited by Chevronone; 02-04-2018 at 03:17 AM. Reason: Too much heat

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    Zajeel Zugunruhe
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    what is your discord :0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevronone View Post
    I can 100% confirm that troupe stages and a majority of nontable items such as partition, mounted bookcases (the entire wall types), etc. can still be placed in the positions to create lofts prior to 4.2. It takes a large bit of creativity. I will not post here how it is done as to preserve this method as long as possible.
    Please share your resources. It's worth noting that SE didn't seem to have a problem with the loft glitch, but rather, with people using it to create elaborate jump puzzles outside of the house's area that apparently bypassed the furnishing limit for the house. They haven't fixed any of the other housing glitches.

    EDIT:

    So I'm unsure if this was the same thing Chevronone was using, but it seems I have been able to get lofts back.



    What I did was stand close to the wall and angle myself away, and click the troupe stage in my Storeroom so that it came out diagonally. Then I dragged it up to the top ledge of the window, standing right next to the window and angling my camera up so I could see where the placement marker was. Then I pressed my subcommand twice. I was able to rotate it and upon leaving and re-entering, it stayed. The marker HAS to look like it's on top of the frame. You might need to try a few times.

    This was how it looked when I got it in the right spot.



    It remains to be seen if it can go in ALL the places it did before. So far I've gotten it to work with Merchant, Mist, and Glade window tops. It appears that the diagonal placing is a requirement, and if you're having trouble, try making it so that you're working with it at a more severe diagonal.
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    Last edited by Elamys; 02-04-2018 at 12:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
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    Thank you so much for sharing, and to Alice for the video! Unfortunately so far I haven't been able to get this working at all with Carbuncle windows. Works fine with Riviera Bay windows though.

    Has anyone been able to do porch placement since patch? I never got around to doing it before patch so I'm not sure if I'm just doing it wrong. If someone could confirm whether or not it's broken, that would be awesome.

    Hoping someone figures out a method for close wall placement again. I accidentally picked up the Hingan Desk I had placed right up against the wall, and now I'm kicking myself. It looks so dumb sticking out so far from the wall. On the bright side, being able to place windows on partitions way more easily is fantastic!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevronone View Post
    I can 100% confirm that troupe stages and a majority of nontable items such as partition, mounted bookcases (the entire wall types), etc. can still be placed in the positions to create lofts prior to 4.2. It takes a large bit of creativity. I will not post here how it is done as to preserve this method as long as possible.
    You realize the only reason the old method was fixed was because everyone was abusing placing things in the negative space outside the house zone, right? There's no reason to hide this method anymore as you're unable to put anything in the negative zone now and it will just bounce back into the house.

    As for Elamys's method, I managed to reproduce it and made a video demonstrating how to do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjvRNS_ODd4 Be sure to read the video description.


    Quote Originally Posted by illgot View Post
    I haven't tested it after 4.2, but basically you have to take an item (any item) and place it on a flat surface like window top, stair pillar, etc, and use the quick swap method.

    I'm not sure why anyone would want to hide this method to make their house special. If that's the reason you are doing it, then your creations aren't that impressive and only hinge on a trick and not actual creativity and design.
    Could you elaborate on this quick swap method please?
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    Last edited by PrincessAlice; 02-04-2018 at 03:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessAlice View Post
    You realize the only reason the old method was fixed was because everyone was abusing placing things in the negative space outside the house zone, right? There's no reason to hide this method anymore as you're unable to put anything in the negative zone now and it will just bounce back into the house.

    As for Elamys's method, I managed to reproduce it and made a video demonstrating how to do it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjvRNS_ODd4
    I wish I could get this to work but it's soooo finicky. Tried it with the Royal Plotting Table and no dice.

    SE, for the love of all that's decorating... bring our old quick swap method back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syrehn View Post
    SE, for the love of all that's decorating... bring our old quick swap method back!
    Or y'know just give us the ability to place things on the x, y, z + angles since all that info is obviously already stored.
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