Merge the servers, and kill the game in the gaming comunity.

[ChiefCurrahee]

@ Kat and Zanfire,

Who are these Investors you keep siting?

Final Fantasies are created and funded soley by SE. SE didn't lobby people with deep pockets to fund this game. They paid for it themselves.

A single games failure won;t make or break SE. They are a HUGE HUGE HUGE company.

This might be a bad analogy but SE is like Toyota.

If Toyota made only 1 type of car and that car was a bust, it's over for toyota.
But Toyota makes many different types of cars. Sedans, sports cars, Luxuray cars, Minivans, coupes, ect ect.

If SE made soley MMO games, XIV would have been a nail in the coffin.
But SE makes a lot of games, and owns a lot of game studios.

Toyota has put out some crappy cars they are still making cars.

SE has put out some crappy games, they are still making games.

Now, to focus on XIV. This MMO is created and funded by SE exclusively. This dev team only answers to the chairmen of SE they don't have to have quarterly meetings with vested interests. I read all over the internet, especially with MMO games about stock values and investors. It's a bunch of hyperbole. SE is a publicly traded company their stock will fluctuate over time. You will see a small surge in value before a huge game is released, and then a decline after. But it's no indication of how 1 paticular game is doing. Unless said compnay exclusively creates MMOs. Which SE doesn't.

So a long story short:

SE is investing in themselves. There are no outside vestors who are dictating the funding of the game. Find yourself a different avenue to approach when you state merges are bad financially for this game.

[Zanfire]

@ Kat and Zanfire,

Who are these Investors you keep siting?

Final Fantasies are created and funded soley by SE. SE didn't lobby people with deep pockets to fund this game. They paid for it themselves.

A single games failure won;t make or break SE. They are a HUGE HUGE HUGE company.

This might be a bad analogy but SE is like Toyota.

If Toyota made only 1 type of car and that care was a bust, it's over for toyota.
But Toyota makes many different types of cars. Sedans, sports cars, Luxuray cars, Minivans, coupes, ect ect.

If SE made soley MMO games, XIV would have been a nail in the coffin.
But SE makes a lot of games, and owns a lot of game studios.

Toyota has put out some crappy cars they are still making cars.

SE has put out some crappy games, they are still making games.

Now, to focus on XIV. This MMO is created and funded by SE exclusively. This dev team only answers to the chairmen of SE they don't have to have quarterly meetings with vested interests. I read all over the internet, especially with MMO games about stock values and investors. It's a bunch of hyperbole. SE is a publicly traded company their stock will fluctuate over time. You will see a small surge in value before a huge game is released, and then a decline after. But it's no indication of how 1 paticular game is doing. Unless said compnay exclusively creates MMOs. Which SE doesn't.

SE isnt ran by people who want to lose money, its run by big business men that will look over each project and see if its worth putting that much more time and money and people into. All companys, funded in or out have games scrapped, even close to done because the big guys dont think its worth it. Do you think they will keep this game going with a tiny playerbase and constant bad press?

noone does this purely for the sake of doing it, they do it to make money, and right now FF14 is not making them jack shit (even with these payments now) and has a good chance of not making it when 2.0 hits (like i said, first impressions are the biggest, many people wont even take a second glance at this game ever again)

and its also been a "shit stain" on the FF name, which this is their bread and butter, they dont want to hurt it.

in the end they cant win. Merge servers...more bad press, leave them up, tick off more players and waste more money. If they kept it free until 2.0, they could have avoided this very likely, but we all know someone on the top wanted to make some sort of money off this game, so Yoshi was stuck doing it. I can bet you its the last thing he wanted to do until 2.0 was ready.

[Katt]

@Currahee You said that the market isn't focased on one game that might be crap. And from the feel I get from you read this was one time miss-hap.

The Final Fantasy franchise has been hurting for some time. X-2 was beyound help. XIII had good graphics, and a good story line.... But as for game play, it was lacking majorly. So this isn't the first time a Final Fantasy game missed the mark.

As for what Zanfire pointed out.

SE isnt ran by people who want to lose money, its run by big business men that will look over each project and see if its worth putting that much more time and money and people into. All companys, funded in or out have games scrapped, even close to done because the big guys dont think its worth it. Do you think they will keep this game going with a tiny playerbase and constant bad press?

noone does this purely for the sake of doing it, they do it to make money, and right now FF14 is not making them jack shit (even with these payments now) and has a good chance of not making it when 2.0 hits (like i said, first impressions are the biggest, many people wont even take a second glance at this game ever again)

and its also been a "shit stain" on the FF name, which this is their bread and butter, they dont want to hurt it.

in the end they cant win. Merge servers...more bad press, leave them up, tick off more players and waste more money. If they kept it free until 2.0, they could have avoided this very likely, but we all know someone on the top wanted to make some sort of money off this game, so Yoshi was stuck doing it. I can bet you its the last thing he wanted to do until 2.0 was ready.

The game as it stands in the puplic eye, the game failed BIG TIME. To quote Zanfire "First impressions are the biggest"

Let role-play a little;

Lets forget that we've ever played the game, and we see the Title Final Fantasy-14 for sale at our local game store. We look at the game box, and then ask the store staff about the game. They tell us everything bad thing about the game in there view. Even looking online at IGN.com and there view on the game. the score they gave the game is 5.5 of 10 and they even posted this on Dec 6, 2010

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Square Enix will finally start charging players a subscription fee to continue adventuring in Eorzea. It's pretty well established at this point that Final Fantasy XIV launched well before it should have, and as a result the game has been in an extended free trial period for over one year. In the time since launch Square Enix made drastic moves, completely restructuring the development team and setting out to address player complaints with the Version 2.0 plan, outlined in detail on the Final Fantasy XIV official site

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Reading this would turn me off of the game compleatly. If anything it would be an after thought next year. As for the players that are here and will play vr 2.0. Of course will all think its great. We've been eating cat food for so long, a fried liver with onions will look like a AAA grade stake.

I do agree with Ranfire more so as he pointed out, that Square Enix is in trouble no matter what they do.

A: Merge the servers, and everyone will see that they don't have the player base and the title failed.

B: Leave the servers alone and make the current players upset since there's very few people to play with now. and the only way to keep them happy is to merge the servers (See A for info)

C: Start charging for the game to recoup. some of the loss money and hope there's enough to pay for the lights and pay for coffee afterwords. But since this will cause players to leave the game and play other Online games, see B & A on what will happen.

Like I said before, I've paid for the game. Heck I'm logged in right now. I mostly wanted to see what the drop was going to be like once billing started. But I do agree with a lot of people out there, that think and say. "Square Enix is charging to soon for the game" The best thing that they could have done is kept the game free to play until vr. 2.0, instead of losing 80% of the player base.

[Delsus]

@Currahee You said that the market isn't focased on one game that might be crap. And from the feel I get from you read this was one time miss-hap.

The Final Fantasy franchise has been hurting for some time. X-2 was beyound help. XIII had good graphics, and a good story line.... But as for game play, it was lacking majorly. So this isn't the first time a Final Fantasy game missed the mark.

As for what Zanfire pointed out.



The game as it stands in the puplic eye, the game failed BIG TIME. To quote Zanfire "First impressions are the biggest"

Let role-play a little;

Lets forget that we've ever played the game, and we see the Title Final Fantasy-14 for sale at our local game store. We look at the game box, and then ask the store staff about the game. They tell us everything bad thing about the game in there view. Even looking online at IGN.com and there view on the game. the score they gave the game is 5.5 of 10 and they even posted this on Dec 6, 2010

-------

Square Enix will finally start charging players a subscription fee to continue adventuring in Eorzea. It's pretty well established at this point that Final Fantasy XIV launched well before it should have, and as a result the game has been in an extended free trial period for over one year. In the time since launch Square Enix made drastic moves, completely restructuring the development team and setting out to address player complaints with the Version 2.0 plan, outlined in detail on the Final Fantasy XIV official site

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Reading this would turn me off of the game compleatly. If anything it would be an after thought next year. As for the players that are here and will play vr 2.0. Of course will all think its great. We've been eating cat food for so long, a fried liver with onions will look like a AAA grade stake.

I do agree with Ranfire more so as he pointed out, that Square Enix is in trouble no matter what they do.

A: Merge the servers, and everyone will see that they don't have the player base and the title failed.

B: Leave the servers alone and make the current players upset since there's very few people to play with now. and the only way to keep them happy is to merge the servers (See A for info)

C: Start charging for the game to recoup. some of the loss money and hope there's enough to pay for the lights and pay for coffee afterwords. But since this will cause players to leave the game and play other Online games, see B & A on what will happen.

Like I said before, I've paid for the game. Heck I'm logged in right now. I mostly wanted to see what the drop was going to be like once billing started. But I do agree with a lot of people out there, that think and say. "Square Enix is charging to soon for the game" The best thing that they could have done is kept the game free to play until vr. 2.0, instead of losing 80% of the player base.

If I was in this position I would probably buy the game for the bargain basement price play for the 1 month free trial and if I didnt like what I saw I would quit but keep upto date with news, forums and patches and maybe pay 1 month here and there to see what it is like.

Infact thats what I did when I started playing at release, I bought the CE played through sept, then was off the game for 1 month, came back, off for a few months came back etc etc until 1.18 when I started playing alot more with the improvements.