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  1. #1
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    Ashenspire's Avatar
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    Ashenspire Desdimarnia
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 80

    Level Sync and How to Fix It

    Nobody likes losing their abilities due to level sync. It's difficult to go back to a level 18 BLM or DRG after being level 70. Not to mention incredibly boring.

    A lot of the push back, though, from changing the system is that tanks wouldn't be able to hold enmity at low levels.

    My proposed fix is simple: Give tanks all the enmity tools they need before the first dungeon by rearranging the levels at which they acquire abilities.

    Gladiator:

    1 - Fast Blade
    2 - Fight or Flight
    4 - Savage Blade
    6 - Flash
    10 - Rage of Halone - Quest
    12 - Shield Lob
    15 - Shield Oath - Quest

    Marauder:

    1 - Heavy Swing
    2 - Berserk
    4 - Skull Sunder
    6 - Overpower
    10 - Butcher's Block - Quest
    12 - Tomahawk
    15 - Defiance - Quest

    And Dark Knight already has all of those equivalent abilities by 30, so they'd have them when they sync down. This will help new tanks understand how to generate aggro properly, and overall it'd be more enjoyable for veterans to level sync.
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    Syncroniam's Avatar
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    Yuki Nerumi
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    Hyperion
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    The worst part about level sync is when it happens in solo story scenarios, i understand the dungeon thing although it shouldn't do it but for solo duties it's really unfair because it erases character progression
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    Usynursws Usynahrwyn
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    Mateus
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    Monk Lv 70
    Or just do it like ToR, where you don't lose anything but stats during syncs, so old content can be more interesting to play. I would be fine with what OP is proposing though.
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    Shadow Link
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    The thing is, the tanking stances are tied to the job, not the class. Maybe in the future when they get rid of the classes and we only get jobs. DRK gets their tank stance at level 30 for the sake of consistency compared to the other tanks.
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDukeofSpook View Post
    Or just do it like ToR, where you don't lose anything but stats during syncs, so old content can be more interesting to play. I would be fine with what OP is proposing though.
    Reason they don't do this is that if a new player has an incomplete rotation then they risk being kicked for slowing the run down
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    I think its fine as is. No I don't like losing my abilities, but it helps me better learn the class at ALL levels. not just the high levels.
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    Player Abelfei's Avatar
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    Abel Fei
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    I think its fine as is. No I don't like losing my abilities, but it helps me better learn the class at ALL levels. not just the high levels.
    Yes, totally agree, part of the process.
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    Deacon Moore
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    Mateus
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    Summoner Lv 79
    Hmm well imho gladiator is fine with aggro with flash spam + riot blade. 3 flashes should keep everything on you 'till it dies and the riot blade keeps you flush with mana.

    Dark knight is pretty good too. Unleash a number of times equal to the number of enemies +1 and you should have them all no problem.

    Marauder though does suffer some down time issues by comparison. 3 overpowers will have it all on you solid but fight too fast without goad being dropped on you and you're going to have to take a breather.

    Aggro becomes an issue with Hakkue Manor or however you spell it when you go in pre-30 and the rest of the group isn't. Even this isn't completely horrible though.

    The biggest problem I see with new tanks not holding aggro at low levels is they refuse to use their available tool kit to its fullest. The tanking tutorial you can take at 15 teaches you too use your aoe aggro tools once and to use your threat combo to hold aggro. That works ok when your party only attacks your target and gives you at least a 5 count before attacking/healing against small groups.
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    Ashenspire Desdimarnia
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilseph View Post
    The thing is, the tanking stances are tied to the job, not the class. Maybe in the future when they get rid of the classes and we only get jobs. DRK gets their tank stance at level 30 for the sake of consistency compared to the other tanks.
    Then they could simply give them a new ability that gives the aggro generation and damage reduction without the defense/hp increase and it upgrades at 30 to the existing one.
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Reason they don't do this is that if a new player has an incomplete rotation then they risk being kicked for slowing the run down
    You made that up. Show your source on that.
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