Level Sync and How to Fix It

[Avatre]

Not to mention...most tanks/healers wouldn't return to the queue in the first place...so yeah. It would end up with the queue being there entirely cause there is almost literally no tank and/or healer, since everyone did their thing, so you need to wait for a "new batch".

While I agree that it wouldn't change the queue times, there are some tanks/healer, who if the AIN bonus is for their respective role, would queue over and over if they are farming for clusters to get materia. Very small percentage(like less than 1%) of those healers/tanks would do that, definitely not enough to cause the queues to run quicker though.

[SendohJin]

And my response to that is... and so what?
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Teaches the low level players how to AoE.

they don't have AOEs, which is why the other guy said they could get kicked.

[kikix12]

While I agree that it wouldn't change the queue times, there are some tanks/healer, who if the AIN bonus is for their respective role, would queue over and over if they are farming for clusters to get materia. Very small percentage(like less than 1%) of those healers/tanks would do that, definitely not enough to cause the queues to run quicker though.

I know. Hence the "most" and "almost literally". I myself use roulette more than once to level if I feel like doing some more runs...cause I prefer variety over efficiency. But the average person won't, and on the scale of the game...yeah.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

I honestly prefer level sync as is. There are some classes that become too complicated or less fun for me in the higher levels. When synced down I can play those classes/jobs with a much more simplified toolkit while not being a drag on the group. Trust me when I say, you'd much rather have me as a lvl 50 or less BLM or DRG in your group than 51+.

[DeaconMoore]

Or you're showing the players without the skills the stuff they will be able to do eventually. Tanks pulling one at a time teach people how to aoe exactly? This continues into Expert roulettes where it doesn't belong. It should be instilled earlier. Do you realize how much faster leveling roulette queues would be for DPS if everyone kept their skills? More people queuing + faster dungeon completion = faster queues. It's a win-win.

Also, the part where I said "if your group has the ability to aoe everything down." If a 70 PLD pulls 4 groups with a low level DRG and MNK, they'll run out of cooldowns, healer will run out of MP, and it'll be a wipe. AKA the group didn't have the ability to aoe everything down.

*smh*

Queue times are long because of a lack of tanks and healers in the queue compared to the number of dps players waiting in the queue not because the servers can only run so many dungeons at a time. Increasing the speed the dungeon completes won't change this at all.

Again yes the new player can see what they have to look forward to and also experience first hand how much they suck right now in comparison. Also their are plenty of people that would love to get the sastasha run over with ASAP. You really think having the ability to kick the new player dps that is dragging the group down wont be abused to make the run over with quicker? >_>

Also yes as we said when you have the aoe damage. Well with your plan I can no longer make that judgment based on the dungeon and classes involved. I would then also have to inspect each of my players to make sure they have those skills available. And again max level players would be favored over low level ones.

Never underestimate the malicious nature of jerks. If they think they can get away with it, they'll do it.

[Derio]

Its not that its just running leveling content, especially really low level content is boring as a tank and healer. Simply because the amount of abilities you have are very small. Nothing will get changed about it though due to reasons above.

There is no need for speed runs in satasha because most dps jobs dont even have 1 aoe ability at that level.

The only real way to fix it is to provide more incentives to get people to run that content for the adventurer in need bonus.

Letting everyone keep their skills only hurts the new players who are still leveling and havent unlocked their skills yet which pushes to a hostile gaming environment which is exactly what Yoshi is trying to avoid.

Letting people keep their skills is not going to make them want to go back into Satasha for the 4564687945436458645468th time.

[Ashenspire]

And this is why I won't even bother humouring your "show me your sources" comment, you clearly won't take no for an answer.

It's not about taking no for an answer. What detrimental effect would there be if a level 70 dps does more damage than a level 18 dps? Some might get kicked because people are jerks? This happens now already. This changes nothing. That's different than you saying "SE won't do it because they think the community is too toxic," which they've never said.

People keep saying it won't change queue times...except it will. If low level dungeons are being done much faster, and a lot of tanks/healers spam dungeons to level because of their already fast queue, they'd cycle through the dps waiting that much faster. DPS waiting for their leveling roulette would get in faster. People would have options beyond PotD from 17-60. Would it make DPS queues instant? No, but it would lower them to an extent.

[SendohJin]

and a lot of tanks/healers spam dungeons to level because of their already fast queue.

this won't happen if they don't make the DAILY leveling roulette XP bonus unlimited. they don't spam the low level ones unless they are also low level. this has nothing to do with high level characters losing abilities.

[Ashenspire]

this won't happen if they don't make the DAILY leveling roulette XP bonus unlimited. they don't spam the low level ones unless they are also low level. this has nothing to do with high level characters losing abilities.

Because the time it takes compared to the exp required doesn't compare to what you get in PotD. Imagine what a summoner or black mage would do to Sastasha with all of their level 70 abilities?

I love that the community constantly wants to breathe life back into old content, but this being the quickest and easiest way to do so is shunned because some people might have their feelings hurt. Not to mention silly things like "I like knowing how to optimize my job at level 47 even though I'm level 70."

[DeaconMoore]

Because the time it takes compared to the exp required doesn't compare to what you get in PotD. Imagine what a summoner or black mage would do to Sastasha with all of their level 70 abilities?

I love that the community constantly wants to breathe life back into old content, but this being the quickest and easiest way to do so is shunned because some people might have their feelings hurt. Not to mention silly things like "I like knowing how to optimize my job at level 47 even though I'm level 70."

Lowbies getting kicked so higher levels can come in for a quick run will drive new players away and reinvigorate nothing.