Level Sync and How to Fix It

[Ashenspire]

If you think enmity is hard for tanks to hold at low lvls now, it would be flat-out impossible for new players if they made this change.

I already cringe just thinking about some poor sprout MRD or GLD trying to hold mobs against any lvl 70 dps synced down but with their entire toolkit of skills.

Did you read the entire post where I said Tanks need to be given the entire enmity toolkit before the first dungeon to make this possible?

As for your example, that's not an official stance. The point was posited that Square Enix won't do this because of a toxic community, and I've never seen them say anything along those lines.

[SendohJin]

You made that up. Show your source on that.

Dragoon doesn't get Doom Spike till Lv 40, if a sync'd Dragoon in Sastasha has Doom Spike > Sonic Thrust combo they will outperform any Lv 15 DPS by leaps and bounds.

Gladiator's under Lv 30 only have Role Action cooldowns, a sync'd PLD will have every cooldown to rotate. they're going to pull the entire dungeon and want all the mobs AOE'd.

[Ashenspire]

Dragoon doesn't get Doom Spike till Lv 40, if a sync'd Dragoon in Sastasha has Doom Spike > Sonic Thrust combo they will outperform any Lv 15 DPS by leaps and bounds.

Gladiator's under Lv 30 only have Role Action cooldowns, a sync'd PLD will have every cooldown to rotate. they're going to pull the entire dungeon and want all the mobs AOE'd.

And my response to that is... and so what?

Low level/levelling dungeons aren't super intense/hard dps checks, so a level 15 LNC being outdps'd by a level 70 synched DRG isn't a big deal. It already happens as is.

If the PLD has all the cooldowns and "pulls the entire dungeon" and the group has the ability to aoe everything down, then what is the problem? Teaches the low level players how to AoE. And you're overestimating how potency and stats scale. Even with all cooldowns, a level 18 PLD with all the level 70 abilities couldn't pull the whole dungeon.

[Vladmiere]

Reason they don't do this is that if a new player has an incomplete rotation then they risk being kicked for slowing the run down

That is a punishable offense. I think if SE would crack down a bit on people who break the rules they think they can get away with the kick button would be used much more wisely. Bots/harassement/afkers/leechers/wintraders/RMT needs to be punished hard.

[Avatre]

That is a punishable offense. I think if SE would crack down a bit on people who break the rules they think they can get away with the kick button would be used much more wisely. Bots/harassement/afkers/leechers/wintraders/RMT needs to be punished hard.

Unfortunately, there is a major loophole that has been mentioned countless times on the forums. Playstyle. Unless that is taken out of the equation, then there is no way it will be turned into a punishable offence.

[Welsper59]

That is a punishable offense. I think if SE would crack down a bit on people who break the rules they think they can get away with the kick button would be used much more wisely. Bots/harassement/afkers/leechers/wintraders/RMT needs to be punished hard.

I would think it's actually not. For the same reason a healer can be kicked for not DPSing, in that it's a difference in playstyle or a disruption of play, I'd argue you can kick someone legitimately for lacking the abilities needed to make "your" run more in-line with how you want to play. Such is the result of their passive responses on many matters.

[Lilseph]

The thing is, the tanking stances are tied to the job, not the class. Maybe in the future when they get rid of the classes and we only get jobs. DRK gets their tank stance at level 30 for the sake of consistency compared to the other tanks.

[Ashenspire]

The thing is, the tanking stances are tied to the job, not the class. Maybe in the future when they get rid of the classes and we only get jobs. DRK gets their tank stance at level 30 for the sake of consistency compared to the other tanks.

Then they could simply give them a new ability that gives the aggro generation and damage reduction without the defense/hp increase and it upgrades at 30 to the existing one.

[silverlunarfox]

I think its fine as is. No I don't like losing my abilities, but it helps me better learn the class at ALL levels. not just the high levels.

[Abelfei]

I think its fine as is. No I don't like losing my abilities, but it helps me better learn the class at ALL levels. not just the high levels.

Yes, totally agree, part of the process.