A Modest Thought

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

concerns about "the formula"

While I can understand and respect your position, I have to say I don't share most of it. I do agree we could do with dungeons being a bit more challenging at the baseline, but outside of that I've been enjoying Stormblood and I am GLAD that the formula was relatively unchanged. There's no reason to reinvent the wheel when the one you have has a proven track record of success. Change to address issues and add quality of life is fine, but change just for the sake of change is never a good idea as far as I'm concerned. But that also doesn't mean I don't want to see new kinds of content and more of it.

[Kalocin]

I've been playing since ARR and I think the grind and prediction is getting to me, I may come back for patch months but otherwise I'm probably taking large breaks between them. I think what really adds to all of it is that there often is so many "gear catch up" methods that mean you could just join halfway through the expansion's cycle and be outfitted with content ready gear in a week, rendering all previous efforts pointless except now there's more content to play for those who join later. Personally, people are the only reason why I still play otherwise I'd have been bored of doing the same thing over and over. The only thing that may keep my attention is housing but we all know how that goes these days.

[Vexander]

What plans does SE have to shake up their core content and keep it from being "quickly spent"?

What plan should they have, out of curiosity?

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm sincere. This is an older complaint, that things in this game never change, and sometimes, that can be daunting. Yoshi P himself said if the game is getting stale, don't be afraid to walk away from it for a while. I've done that myself a couple of times and it helps. A 1-2 month break often lets me come back feeling refreshed and happy to be playing again.

But what would you suggest Square do to, 'Shake up their core content and keep it from being Quickly Spent?'

[hellmach]

What plan should they have, out of curiosity?

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm sincere. This is an older complaint, that things in this game never change, and sometimes, that can be daunting. Yoshi P himself said if the game is getting stale, don't be afraid to walk away from it for a while. I've done that myself a couple of times and it helps. A 1-2 month break often lets me come back feeling refreshed and happy to be playing again.

But what would you suggest Square do to, 'Shake up their core content and keep it from being Quickly Spent?'

I wouldn't know, which is why I'm asking the question and seeing if other people can bring ideas upor hopefully the devs read this. I've done the break thing. For a year in fact b/c of PC issues and I never got back into the game like I was back in 3.1 when I left. A more busy life aside, I can't even bother to play sometimes because it feels as if nothing changed. I'm actually typing this as my toon is standing around in Gridania to start the All Saint's Eve quest. Next I'm going to go for a smoke then keep reading this thread... shit post on Facebook and Twitter a little and probably start the event quest in which case I'll log off and do some work or level up my alt. Some ideas I've heard were 8 man dungeons with light progression you can do for gear which I thought about even
before I left this game on break. I'm not going to lie that MOBA game sounds really cool and I hope it takes off better then LoV did. I hope the Exploratory mission becomes a success because it sounds like a cool concept and I hope PvP takes off harder then it does now. Maybe they can take the time to try some thing new with the one dungeon they'll give us like alternate pathways that decide what boss you'll face at the end or change your party's attributes meaning you have to approach it differently each time. That's just an idea of mine since you asked for it. But taking another break would mean permanent break from the game for me at this point and I really want to wait it out a bit before I decide to do that... plus I have like a hundred and fifty days left on my sub... so yeah.

[MerleSirlos]

I wouldn't know, which is why I'm asking the question and seeing if other people can bring ideas upor hopefully the devs read this. I've done the break thing. For a year in fact b/c of PC issues and I never got back into the game like I was back in 3.1 when I left. A more busy life aside, I can't even bother to play sometimes because it feels as if nothing changed. I'm actually typing this as my toon is standing around in Gridania to start the All Saint's Eve quest. Next I'm going to go for a smoke then keep reading this thread... shit post on Facebook and Twitter a little and probably start the event quest in which case I'll log off and do some work or level up my alt. Some ideas I've heard were 8 man dungeons with light progression you can do for gear which I thought about even
before I left this game on break. I'm not going to lie that MOBA game sounds really cool and I hope it takes off better then LoV did. I hope the Exploratory mission becomes a success because it sounds like a cool concept and I hope PvP takes off harder then it does now. Maybe they can take the time to try some thing new with the one dungeon they'll give us like alternate pathways that decide what boss you'll face at the end or change your party's attributes meaning you have to approach it differently each time. That's just an idea of mine since you asked for it. But taking another break would mean permanent break from the game for me at this point and I really want to wait it out a bit before I decide to do that... plus I have like a hundred and fifty days left on my sub... so yeah.

As good as this part sounds, it is very very unlikely to ever work. Because two different bosses means one will be slightly easier than the other (even if by only 0.01%), so someone will come up with some math on reddit saying that A is easier than B and everyone will choose to go A and you will get kicked to even mention trying B. Only way I can see it work is if both ways have the exact same fight but with a different them, like one fire boss or one ice boss, but they do the exact same damage (fire boss does fire wind while ice boss does ice wind). And even like people might complain that it's just a reskin and not worth it, maybe.

[hellmach]

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Idk I'm just tossing an idea out. I think it was T2 that was like this except the boss attributes changed depending on the path you took. Again I'm just tossing the idea out there. I think it would be interesting to see how the idea turns out and since the dev team is only making one dungeon at a time now is the time to try new things with them.

[Gemina]

It's difficult for me to sympathize with these kind of threads, and my response is always the same because I always get the same impression from the OP. And that is simply that you are burned out.

I've experienced this burnout on other mmos. You have to take a step back and ask yourself if the goals you have with playing an mmo line up with obtainable goals in the mmo you're playing. As an example, there are many FFXIV players who desire vertical progression, but that's not the system this game uses. So you either deal with it and find fulfillment elsewhere in the game, or find another mmo that matches your desired progression rate.

My experiences with previous mmos taught me a lot before I subbed to FFXIV. One of those was to create goals based off what the game has to offer, and another was to not spend 98% of my time grinding the 2% of the game's total content.

Of course, I can't expect everyone to get enjoyment from the game the same way I do, and I likely sit in the minority with how I do, but at the same time, I recognize that I found a way to keep myself from getting burned out. All that being said, my advice is to try to do the same within the parameters the game has set. If you cannot and are not enjoying your experiences in the game, there aren't many options left for you.

[Lukha]

I can't be the only one who clicked this expecting a Lalafell-themed parody of A Modest Proposal..

[hellmach]

I can't be the only one who clicked this expecting a Lalafell-themed parody of A Modest Proposal..

Thanks for the idea >

[Okamimaru]

I'm disappointed... I was expecting a thread about eating babies... or lalas at least...