Boycotting Dark Knight

[Azerhan]

You don't even listen what WF and Yoshida's team are saying.
All jobs can do all content. All.

But! That doesn't means all jobs are equal. Xenos himself told the DRK need something, because when we talk about speedkill, DRK is just bad. Also, for an average player, DRK is still the worst tank to play.

[Drudwyn]

While WF Ultimate clear shows DRK is viable enough—honestly more than viable enough—that doesn't mean it wouldn't benefit the game to adjust it some. There's a lot of things in its kit that don't make sense or work well, just like MNK. MNK doesn't have a DPS problem but rather has a design problem, but people still point to MNK's DPS and utility to shut down any conversations about changes to how the job feels or plays.

That's exactly how I feel about both jobs. They're great, they're viable, but they're missing things. Fun and design fluidity. The same can be said for SCH really, its kit doesn't quite work. I would like my DRK to be as fun as my WAR and my PLD, but it's not.

[Savagelf]

Xenos doesn't know what he talk about. how much time does he spend play his dark knight. sound to me that people are just anger of nothing. how time do any you spend play your dark knight hmm, if you boycott it mean you spend very little time play it so you are tried adjust any new system with dark knight no you just get anger with how adjust to learn how play it better with new system you behavior like little spoiled babies

realize to tank you must have both Grit and Darksider on to tank

the core ability of warrior is overwhlemed this should be in your c1 slot on your keyboard


they alittle sercet that most tank aren't tell you that tank hasn't change since 2.0 to 4.0 this what i am say should be common knowledge but i see to many tank run around not use grit and dark side or use overwhelm but these skills are still need

[DRKoftheAzure]

Xenos doesn't know what he talk about. how much time does he spend play his dark knight. sound to me that people are just anger of nothing. how time do any you spend play your dark knight hmm, if you boycott it mean you spend very little time play it so you are tried adjust any new system with dark knight no you just get anger with how adjust to learn how play it better with new system you behavior like little spoiled babies

realize to tank you must have both Grit and Darksider on to tank

the core ability of warrior is overwhlemed this should be in your c1 slot on your keyboard


they alittle sercet that most tank aren't tell you that tank hasn't change since 2.0 to 4.0 this what i am say should be common knowledge but i see to many tank run around not use grit and dark side or use overwhelm but these skills are still need

Google translate much....?

[Valdegarde]

Unfortunately, this fabled newest interview is the only time they've responded to Dark Knight issues directly since Stormblood started (and perhaps reaching far earlier).

What I took from it was that they notice party composition and usage statistics in deciding balancing factors in jobs, that the tanks are close enough right now to not warrant alarm, and also Dark Knights are immature siblings that saw Warrior get a present for Christmas and want one too. The last part feels implied.

But I decided to focus on something I now know they notice: party composition and strategy. If there is a major decrease in party compositions including Dark Knight, they can notice and comment on it. I really don't care anymore who thinks Dark Knight is fine or not fine and in what ways, I feel something needs to be done for my enjoyment of the job and if the only way to get the message across is the aforementioned way, then so bloody be it.

(I do think Dark Knight is, in small (DPS), medium (TBN) and alarming ways (useless skills, overall mitigation) behind the other tanks, but it's past the point of convincing others now.)

[SummerScorcher]

...and also Dark Knights are immature siblings that, before going to sleep inside a dumpster on the street, were looking for food in the trash bin on a cold winter night, saw Warrior get a present for Christmas through the window and wished for one too.

(semi)Joking of course, though can't say it doesn't hold any truth to it.

[Tint]

if you boycott it mean you spend very little time play it so you are tried adjust any new system with dark knight no you just get anger with how adjust to learn how play it better with new system you behavior like little spoiled babies

hm, i spent enough time with my dark knight, i don't raid, but i got my 4.0 tank mount and farmed the ex primals a lot. and yes, i am using grit and i have 2000 tenacity on my DRK. but however...

3.0 DRK brought me to tank, despite my social anxiety and - tankxiety, because the class was just so much fun to play. however, 4.0 DRK is no fun for me anymore, especially the lack of defense and the change to a more offensive playstyle* broke the class for me, because i love being defensive.

*by that i mean you now have to constatly use dark arts to manually turn your mana into dps, rather than dark side does this automatically for you like in 3.0, wich results in a higher focus in working for your dps than in 3.0, while at the same time many defensive skills are gone and the main defensive skill now - TBN - also gives you 50 blood, so you have not only to constantly blow mana into dps, but also burn the blood away. this focus on the offense is not what i am looking for when playing tank...

[Chrono_Rising]

http://www.mmorpg.com/final-fantasy-...ADi535s1STD.99

TL;dr of that interview: Tanks are balanced in his eyes and the dev team. Strongly doubting "translation" issues like people claimed in the first interview.

[Azerhan]

http://www.mmorpg.com/final-fantasy-...ADi535s1STD.99

TL;dr of that interview: Tanks are balanced in his eyes and the dev team. Strongly doubting "translation" issues like people claimed in the first interview.

I wonder if YoshiP sometime plays tank in FF. I mean... Tanks are already the role that has the less players, it's all because the gameplay, of course, but it contributes.
Now, the DRK is less played since SB, and in the english forum -> Tank the DRK is the main protagonist of ~70% of the threads.

And all is good for him...

I love FF XIV and I love the way YoshiP saved it, but God, he doesn't understand tanks in mmo...

[Cheyze]

He wasn't going to talk about job balance in that interview. it was a loaded question firstly and he concedes to that final point: WAR has visibly better raid mitigation (of course).

But he wasn't going to say anything more or go into depth, just as he ignored the Monk question as well.

His first job is a PR man and this was a promotion interview, he's not going say something like, 'yeah job x has problems.' Those kind of comments will come directly from patch notes and LLs when they're being addressed and/or solutions are coming as well.

I think so, too.

Yet I can understand if those who were/are waiting for some kind of acknowledgement can't help but feel disappointment towards this reaction.