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  1. #131
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    Rhais's Avatar
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 85
    Balance and viability also have nothing to do with how much fun I have playing the job. I don't really give a damn about DRK getting world first, it still doesn't make a poorly designed job fun to use. I really think it's too bad most of the complaints about DRK have been framed in tank balance discussions, because the problems are more about how the job is put together, how it functions. Or maybe I'm in the minority but I hate the way the job was changed for SB and world first isn't going to alter that.
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  2. #132
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    Gojin's Avatar
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    Infini Fiasco
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    Cactuar
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    Summoner Lv 70
    go play a job you have fun with then no one is forcing a great sword into your hand and to follow the path of darkness yo.
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  3. #133
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    We can also try and raise awareness of the issue while we do that.
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  4. #134
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    Chrono_Rising's Avatar
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    Gulvioir Muruc
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    PSU: You recently made changes to the Warrior job that has caused some dark knights to now feel slightly less useful in the end game scene, with certain moves like Dark Passenger feeling much less useful. Are there any plans to address these potential balance issues?

    Naoki Yoshida:
    While we are always looking closely at community opinions on adjustments, the team currently feels that these recent changes have not made a largely visible disparity between the classes. Many players are tackling the Unending Coil of Bahamut (Ultimate) and the trends in strategy and party composition is also a big indicator for us as well. However, I do not think it wrong to say that the contribution warrior can now bring with Shake it Off is more visibly apparently when compared to dark knight.

    Full interview http://www.psu.com/feature/34640/int...future-content

    Sounds like we aren't getting anything until 5.0.
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  5. #135
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    Mycow8me's Avatar
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    Tolby Seyfert
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    Cactuar
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    Blacksmith Lv 70
    Not gonna boycott DRK, there's no reason to go that far if its a class you enjoy in the first place... It will be interesting to see what happens if another tank sees an emergence in 5.0 though.
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  6. #136
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    Orlane Armilly
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mycow8me View Post
    Not gonna boycott DRK, there's no reason to go that far if its a class you enjoy in the first place... It will be interesting to see what happens if another tank sees an emergence in 5.0 though.
    Maybe we are boycotting DRK because we don't enjoy it anymore?
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    "Là où il n'y a pas d'imagination, il n'y a pas d'horreur." Sherlock Holmes, Une étude en rouge, Conan Doyle

  7. #137
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    Daniel_Fury's Avatar
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    Daniel Fury
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 70
    The translation on the shake it off quote is confusing.
    It's like he's saying it's not wrong to think that the contributton from SIO is more visibly apparent than what DRK offers.

    Does he mean it's better or a subtle reference that he thinks TBN is good, we just don't see it.
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  8. #138
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    Xenosan's Avatar
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    Goffard Gaffgarion
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    He wasn't going to talk about job balance in that interview. it was a loaded question firstly and he concedes to that final point: WAR has visibly better raid mitigation (of course).

    But he wasn't going to say anything more or go into depth, just as he ignored the Monk question as well.

    His first job is a PR man and this was a promotion interview, he's not going say something like, 'yeah job x has problems.' Those kind of comments will come directly from patch notes and LLs when they're being addressed and/or solutions are coming as well.
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  9. #139
    Player
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    Sophie Miret-njer
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Gojin View Post
    go play a job you have fun with then no one is forcing a great sword into your hand and to follow the path of darkness yo.
    How did I not see this? With the plethora of tanking jobs, just go play something else! With the abundance of tanks in this game, with the wide ranging diversity within the many jobs in this role just find something else I have fun with! It's all so simple!
    And for those of you that still enjoy the trash that is SB DRK but are concerned about balance just remember,
    Quote Originally Posted by Gojin View Post
    DRK WF cleared Ultimate.
    Can facts, data or logic stand against such argumentation? No, no the threads can now be closed, the complaints can stop, we who are not satisfied with DRK don't have a leg to stand on.
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  10. #140
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    NovaLevossida's Avatar
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    Kaiser Sturmwind
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 50
    While WF Ultimate clear shows DRK is viable enough—honestly more than viable enough—that doesn't mean it wouldn't benefit the game to adjust it some. There's a lot of things in its kit that don't make sense or work well, just like MNK. MNK doesn't have a DPS problem but rather has a design problem, but people still point to MNK's DPS and utility to shut down any conversations about changes to how the job feels or plays.
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