How is the summoner dps?

[PrismaticDaybreak]

Fair enough, sorry for my tone. Not having a great day and I'm not good at compartmentalizing.

[Karshan]

just stepping in to say about devotion : people always call it but it's 2% with 12,5% uptime = 0,25% raid buff. On a 40 000 raid group dps, it's 100...not THE absolute wonder so please stop bringing it into this.

On the same group, with 3 physical DPS at 6000 and two tanks at 4k, embolden is 200 DPS. But If you take radiant shield in blabla

Actually it doesn't matter : when two classes are more than 200 DPS apart, no amount of the current utilities justifies it. it's just flawed.
They should balance DPS AND utilities. That way, more comps become competitive.

Right now, the justification for lesser DPS on RDM doesn't stand anymore (so you tell a guy who leveled RDM, sorry, come back 4.2 or go SMN to join ?), and SMN is getting insane in terms of personnal DPS. This should be fixed. I mean they're starting to outDPS SAM, what in the world ?? And I'm saying that as a SMN myself.

Nerf it but cleverly by lowering ceiling and not the floor. A work on wyrmwaves should do.

[Remedi]

Verraise and any ress have a use when the fight is so forgiving that 4+ deaths won't compromise you whatsoever, there have already been fights where either just 2 deaths would jeopardize the try or 1 mistake would outright wipe you

No dps jobs should be valued their worth because of beign able to ress (and tbh I would agree that verraise should not be able to be dualcasted at all)

[Maero]

I am not touching Ultimate so i have no issues sticking to Red, lol
I switched because was very unhappy with what they have done with blm, it is so frustrating especially since i have mained it for around 4 years.
SE have absolutely no clue how to balance jobs.
Smn has issues> let's buff the crap out of it and make all other jobs almost useless..

[Karshan]

Agreed.

The worst part is : they only fixed half the class right now. That's also why I want a nerf : SE don't make it OP so you can continue with QoL improvments without buffing it every time making other casters sad ! Otherwise we'll be called greedy if we keep ranting, because you fixed things that are already very good (dmg output) instead of focusing on what really matters to SMNs (how to output it) and done half the job asked on that last part.

I absolutely don't want the tag : here, class fixed.

So please adress DRK, MNK, BLM troubles as well, they are sad with SB so far, so you can continue the work on SMN as well without favoritizing a class.

PS : for RDM, just put a part of Contre-sixte in dot form (base reduced to 250, dot pot 30, duration 30s -> so total 550 with 300 in DOT form). Bam, +150 DPS, on par with casters with utility in mind, a small boost of AOE damage as well)

[Remedi]

I'd say that MNK are in a fair spot tbh compared to BLM and DRK