Minor Arcana macro question

[Dajova]

So i have a macro that goes like this on my Astrologian:

/micon "Minor Arcana"
/ac "Minor Arcana" <tt>
/ac "Minor Arcana"
/ac "Sleeve Draw"

Basically, it uses whatever is drawn on my Minor Arcana ability (either "Lord of Crowns" or "Lady of Crowns") and uses it on either my target-of-target (usually my tank target) or whatever else (target > myself) and if none are present, it uses "Sleeve Draw".
Or at least, that's what it should do...
Problem is that with "Lady of Crowns", it ALWAYS chooses myself instead of my current target, even if its friendly, which never happens with "Lord of Crowns". Anyone knows why? The only solution i know about this is to use <mo> before <tt>, but i dont always like to use mouseover macros for stuff like this (or rather, remember its a <mo> macro).
Is this intended or just a unreported bug?

[Cynfael]

I'm guessing this is the same issue that Embrace macros have always run into. It's why I made the switch to <mo>. Unless something has changed, you won't be able to get around it.

My macro includes both <t> and <mo> so that it defaults to my currently selected target if no <mo> target is available. I haven't tried it with <tt>.

[Legion88]

You say <tt> but if <tt> is an enemy it is an invalid target for "Lady of Crowns" so it falls back to the default target (yourself) and skips the normal line.

You need to switch /ac "Minor Arcana" <tt> and /ac "Minor Arcana".

Now you say <t> for Lady and Lord. For Lady it operates like it should and uses it on the target and for Lord it says invalid target ignores the line and goes to the next one which is <tt>.

/micon "Minor Arcana"
/ac "Minor Arcana"
/ac "Minor Arcana" <tt>
/ac "Sleeve Draw"

This should work as you intend it.

[Rongway]

Any
/ac "Healing Action"
with no target or with any target other than <mo> doesn't play well. Instead of validating the target, it'll default to you. <mo> has an extra layer of validation that checks some things that <t> and <tt> don't, and will be less likely to misfire.

[Dajova]

So in other words, it is a bug, since the ability can go on both friendly and enemy target alike... Right...

I'm guessing this is the same issue that Embrace macros have always run into. It's why I made the switch to <mo>. Unless something has changed, you won't be able to get around it.

My macro includes both <t> and <mo> so that it defaults to my currently selected target if no <mo> target is available. I haven't tried it with <tt>.

Already tried with a extra <t> line, same results unfortunately. It still uses lady on myself instead of my target or target-target.

You say <tt> but if <tt> is an enemy it is an invalid target for "Lady of Crowns" so it falls back to the default target (yourself) and skips the normal line.

You need to switch /ac "Minor Arcana" <tt> and /ac "Minor Arcana".

Now you say <t> for Lady and Lord. For Lady it operates like it should and uses it on the target and for Lord it says invalid target ignores the line and goes to the next one which is <tt>.


This should work as you intend it.

Ill try this tomorrow and see if that fixes it, getting late and already done all my roulettes for today. Updating when tested.

[Rongway]

It's not a bug; it's just a poorly designed convenience. It's meant to make it so you can heal yourself when soloing, without needing a second button or changing your target to yourself. It would be nice if it only applied to the raw ability button and not to macros; or at least didn't apply when the a <> is specified.

I just tested Legion's macro and it still Lady's me instead of tt.

[Legion88]

I just tested Legion's macro and it still Lady's me instead of tt.

You are using it wrong. The macro is designed to have the tank as target not an enemy...

if you have an enemy as target my macro will Lady yourself, but if you have a tank tanking the enemy and you have the tank as your target it should Lady the tank and Lord the <tt>.

Don't have an AST leveled so far so can't test it myself.

[Cynfael]

You are using it wrong. The macro is designed to have the tank as target not an enemy...

if you have an enemy as target my macro will Lady yourself, but if you have a tank tanking the enemy and you have the tank as your target it should Lady the tank and Lord the <tt>.

Don't have an AST leveled so far so can't test it myself.

I'm not able to log in right this second and confirm for current gameplay, but this is exactly the macro that has refused to work with faerie Embrace. Mechanically it should work, but in practice it never did because of how the game prioritizes targets for healing when you don't break it with <mo>. If you need to constantly switch targets to make what is supposed to be a convenience macro work, it somewhat defeats the point.

Edit: To be clear, I reference switching targets because it’s not always practical to assist off the tank; hard-targeting enemies is still necessary unless you <mo> pretty much everything.

[Jas710]

It could be a thing where you'd need to include every possible sleeve draw result (with all their <t> and <tt> integrated as well). The non-applicable ones will get ignored. Might have to turn off all error messaging, as it could get fairly noisy.

[Rongway]

You are using it wrong. The macro is designed to have the tank as target not an enemy...

Oh, I see what you're saying. The tt is there for indirect Lord of Crowns, and Lady still has to be directed. Yes, in that case, the macro does that.


Here are the macro outcomes:

Lord->Friend: Use Lord of Crowns on friend's target
Lord->Enemy: Use Lord of Crowns on enemy
Lady->Friend: Use Lady of Crowns on friend
Lady->Enemy: Use Lady of Crowns on self