Originally Posted by Mortechai

There needs to be a minimum 10 level difference in the dungeons you get for leveling roulette. I've taken the 30min penalty three times in a row now because as a level 66 tank, I've gotten Bardam's Mettle all three times I've queued for leveling roulette. The xp bonus you get at the end is not worth the daily. It needs to be restricted to lower level dungeons, like if you're level 65, it should only unlock dungeons from level 55 down so it doesn't feel like you're burning your leveling daily for weak returns on the bonus.

Sounds like a personal problem, the roulette is not broken, it's how you perceive the expectations to be. I would think the word roulette would give a hint, and regardless if it's the first run you still get a mayor bonus. Your just helping out others as well which is the whole purpose of it. If you just take the penalty it's your choice, If you want a specific dungeon range then select it don't waste other peoples time waiting when your going to bail just because you didn't get what you want. How would you feel if a tank bailed on you after waiting 30 min+ on queue?

Like alot of said already,Leveling Roullette evens out no matter what dungeon lvl. Bigger bonus for lower dungeons, but more xp from mobs if it is a higher dungeon. Always ends up about the same. With all due respect if you're lvl 66 you should have noticed this by now.

Originally Posted by Abelfei

Like alot of said already,Leveling Roullette evens out no matter what dungeon lvl. Bigger bonus for lower dungeons, but more xp from mobs if it is a higher dungeon. Always ends up about the same. *snip*

Nicely said.....I was trying to figure out a way to describe it..you hit the nail on the head.

-Neph

Originally Posted by Abelfei

Like alot of said already,Leveling Roullette evens out no matter what dungeon lvl. Bigger bonus for lower dungeons, but more xp from mobs if it is a higher dungeon. Always ends up about the same. With all due respect if you're lvl 66 you should have noticed this by now.

This.

Bardam's Mettle gives around 2 Mio. XP for clearing plus a few 100k for roulette, while getting Sastasha in leveling roulette gives about 1,6 Mio. XP at level 66 + idk 10.000 XP for clearing the dungeon?!

Also.. in case of a new player Sastasha only gives you maaaaybe 5k extra XP, while Bardam's Mattle should be around or even more than 100k XP.

At level 65 (more precise: if you're on the exact level of the dungeon) you also get chain bonusses for killing many mobs in a row (idk, maybe 20-50% more XP from Mobs).
Works only in the highest dungeon available (and not being already 1 level higher than demanded).

The only time you should want a really low dungeon is when getting a q "in progress".

The bonus is actually great. Without the bonus, it is terrible though.

And if tanks only got dungeons at least 10 levels below them, how will healers and DPS queued in for the specific Stormblood dungeons to advance the quests ever get through?

Sorry you want to get by on easier content and aren't be able to, but implementing your idea will only make a bad problem for non-tanks worse

To be honest, I kinda get what OP is saying. I mean there were times when I was regularly getting Castrim Abania (probably because players were farming to 70), and this did get somewhat annoying after a while. Definitely it's Roulette and anything goes, but occasionally it's nice to get some variety especially when there is a multitude of duties to pick from (pending lvl restriction) rather than the same ones.

Originally Posted by Kurando

To be honest, I kinda get what OP is saying. I mean there were times when I was regularly getting Castrim Abania (probably because players were farming to 70), and this did get somewhat annoying after a while. Definitely it's Roulette and anything goes, but occasionally it's nice to get some variety especially when there is a multitude of duties to pick from (pending lvl restriction) rather than the same ones.

The only reason you are getting the same dungeon again and again is because there is always someone trying to queue into it, the roulette is designed to speed up the queues for those that need specific duties for levelling, not for you to get variety.

Same goes for the OP and bardems mettle, except I have no sympathy because it is a really weak excuse to leave and waste the 45mins that a DPS could have been queuing. You commited to the roulette OP, and you hurt the experience of others every time you leave.

Originally Posted by Lambdafish

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I know quite well how the roulette works, I was merely adding my own thoughts/experience to the thread and not expecting any actual change to happen to it. The roulette is for random variety regardless, it just happens to work in tandem with other players that are picking specific duties that's all.

Of course I don't agree with anyone leaving a duty just because they don't like it (such as OP's case), but unfortunately it happens and most tanks or healers that do that won't particular care anyway as they have the luxury of quicker queues anyway, so they aren't really concerned with dps waiting 45mins.

The roulette is there first and foremost, not for variety, but to match players into duties that they otherwise would not select. For this risk of getting stuff they don't like, they are given a bonus reward, once a day.

The roulette is there to help shorten the queues of people who need to complete specific duties. People are mistaken to think it is there to give you an edge on leveling. No. All that bonus and all that variety is a by-product of putting you where you are needed.