Thread: 4.1 retainers bringing back walls

Well I'm yet to see this. I keep getting fish and dungeon gear lol

Originally Posted by DarkDedede

Crafters and sellers are really second class citizens, compared to their precious raiders and PVP players.

HAHA. PVP players lumped in with raiders. Have a look at the PVP forum. We've been asking for dev input and giving them suggestions on how to fix this mess of a ranked and frontline system for YEARS without so much as a peep. The thread about the chat restriction in the feast has become one of the longest-running threads in this entire forum, brimming with suggestions and feedback, only to hear nothing but "keep up the suggestions!" Why bother if nothing is going to come of it?

But..maybe this is foolish of me. I have hope. The hardcore raiders just got something to chew on for a time. PVP update is coming in 4.15 and that's when the next season of the Feast ends. I have hope that they are listening and working on the issues. Whether or not our desires are going to get lost in translation or be dismissed entirely is another thing.

Now back on topic. My lovely retainers have tanked the "Sky Rat" and "Sky Pirate" market, as well as the market for walls.

I'm hoping that we'll get new airship ventures soon with new stuff to find (possibly in Eureka), or even submarines or something an FC can work on together.

And I keep hoping for other uses for all this chimera hide, potter's stone and Vivianite I keep collecting.

Originally Posted by Stormfur

Now back on topic. My lovely retainers have tanked the "Sky Rat" and "Sky Pirate" market, as well as the market for walls.

I'm hoping that we'll get new airship ventures soon with new stuff to find (possibly in Eureka), or even submarines or something an FC can work on together.

And I keep hoping for other uses for all this chimera hide, potter's stone and Vivianite I keep collecting.

Same, same, same. Walls for days. Sky Rat for days.

I think crafting walls was intended to be not a big deal because it's an FC project, so a large amount of people would each make a small contribution. In reality it's usually just one person doing all the work rather than a collaboration, so it's a big deal for one person to gather or buy that huge amount of materials by themselves, and then they are forced to rope people in just for the progression cutscene part. I'm trying to imagine what true craft or gather party content would look like. Maybe they send a light party out to a designated area and you search for some kind of treasure like a hot or cold game, a message after you deplete a mode telling you if you sense something nearby or not. Once discovered some special nodes pop on everyone's map and you meet there to gather some unique item until a progress bar fills and mission complete. Something simple. Then you're all rewarded a large quantity of crafting mats, the kind that are needed for FC projects.

Originally Posted by Rufalus

I think crafting walls was intended to be not a big deal because it's an FC project, so a large amount of people would each make a small contribution. In reality it's usually just one person doing all the work...

We usually manage to get at least 4 or 5 people gathering for our projects and our members are very generous with the materials you get from the GC but even, then the walls are a huge investment of time and GC Seals. I'm shocked retainers are bringing these items back (I don't bother with the quick ventures).

There is so little content for Free Companies to do together and this just undermines it. I really feel that the crafted walls should remain FC exclusive.

Originally Posted by Serilda

Just standard Quick Ventures. Don't even need to have high enough stats to remove the warning about rare items; I've had two walls already (the first was the first ever sold on my server so I made bank, but nobody is ever going to buy the second).

Battle retainers or gatherering?

I just got the moogle cottage house thingy.

Quick ventures battle.

My gathering retainers have brought me two walls and one roof this week from quick ventures. What they bring seems to go in cycles.