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  1. #1
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    4.1 retainers bringing back walls

    I have to express that it was an incredibly poor decision to add walls to retainers.

    4.1 hasn't been out that long and someone in my FC has already brought back 3 different walls, including the exact eatery mansion walls I spent hours gathering and crafting for. Yes, mansion walls, lots of materials to make and limited in the number of mansions as it is. The price is already down to about 200k.

    In the future, SE, you should seriously reconsider adding something so difficult to make to something designed to be simple as a "send it out, come back tomorrow and with a single click collect some easy rewards" content.

    Considering how often those types of walls sell to begin with the market will be flooded at this point indefinitely, even if the current rate of procurement were reduced. And I would say in the very least the amount of materials needed to make such walls should be cut drastically. There is no point in even doing those projects anymore, as even at several million on the MB (extremely generous), it's still cheaper to buy than to make.
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    Last edited by Vierra; 10-17-2017 at 12:04 PM.

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    Man Dudez
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    Exodus
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    Armorer Lv 90
    They did the exact same thing when they first added quick ventures. I wouldn't expect them to change it. Retainers were bringing back new items before anyone could even get the mats (from raiding or gardening).

    The funny thing is at least the small house walls aren't even considered "rare" so that's why they are being flooded on the MB now. Even funnier is every server will soon have more house walls on the MB than total houses to use them on. You'll basically be able to very cheaply rotate between house walls to mix is up now.
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    Last edited by Mandudez; 10-17-2017 at 12:14 PM.

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    DarkDedede's Avatar
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    Red Cork
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    Sargatanas
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Well it required little to no effort just add items to the quick venture pool, rather than dream up and implement an alternative to obtaining certain items that are gated behind FC housing.

    The devs will go the "zero-effort" route every time, even if it means saturating the market.

    Crafters and sellers are really second class citizens, compared to their precious raiders and PVP players.
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    Last edited by DarkDedede; 10-18-2017 at 03:01 AM.

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    Aosha's Avatar
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    Aosha Koz'ain
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    Odin
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    Yup... My retainer brought back Small Outfitter's Walls a few (3? 4?) days back. The selling price had been sitting at a stable 6-10 million for almost a year (I could see up to last November on the history page), being at 9 when I got it. It has since then already dropped down to 1.5 million, while the number of walls on sale has shot up from 4 to 25 (really? did that many people get this items specifically in that short a time? @.@). Now, for me whatever gil I get out of it is just free money so I can't really complain, but I do feel bad for the people who actually crafted those things to sell.
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    silverlunarfox's Avatar
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    Loki Lux
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    Lamia
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    I want walls.....I keep getting fish T.T
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    Abel Fei
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    Gotta admit, OP is correct. I have gotten 2 medium trade walls that started @ 15 mil when I got them and are now down to 6, and neither sold because 6 others have gottem them too. Also got a chocobo mansion all that started @ 50 million and is now down to 15, and hasn't sold either.
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Dancer Lv 60
    Oh so thats why my just finished moogle wall is worthless now... >_>
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    DarkDedede's Avatar
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    Summoner Lv 70
    If they're going to give things away like candy, at least make it so it can be desynthed.

    Seriously, there are actual people in charge of managing the economy of this game, correct? This is not the first time they've shown a complete and total disregard to sellers by undermining the selling price of certain items. Are they apathetic or just nonexistent?

    Just like the materials obtained from "airship ventures" (or whatever it's called), no one needs these items at the frequency that they are being given out.

    How about giving out something people would actually want or need. Players don't need more useless garbage to clutter up the marketboard. At least fish can be desynthed into shards and crystals, so there's always going to be some demand for those. Demand for housing items dries up as soon as everyone has their house done and decorated. Doesn't stop quick ventures from producing more and more.

    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    I want walls.....I keep getting fish T.T
    Just wait a couple weeks. Soon enough you'll be able to buy a wall from the gil you make off of the sale of the fish.
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    Last edited by DarkDedede; 10-21-2017 at 06:07 AM. Reason: didn't want to double post
    "Fun comes first. If it isn't fun, you're doing it wrong." -Naoki Yoshida

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    Mature Rudlum
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    What venture brings walls?? I haven't seen any so far.
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    Serilda's Avatar
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    Yojimbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mature View Post
    What venture brings walls?? I haven't seen any so far.
    Just standard Quick Ventures. Don't even need to have high enough stats to remove the warning about rare items; I've had two walls already (the first was the first ever sold on my server so I made bank, but nobody is ever going to buy the second).
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