Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
E4E would be after the holies if the tank is still dropping. I figure everyone struggles at times with their jobs or poor positioning so my role is to help catch them. If it turns out I don't need it that's fine with me.
Oh yeah, it's cool to have for sure. I was just saying the stun from Holy means enemies are attacking the tank less while E4E is up which makes it less effective. For a SCH or AST on a big pull it's great since they don't stun. But after 3 or 4 holies enemies go immune to the stun for like a minute anyways so that's prime time for E4E.

Though now I'm curious what cross roles you have, that might be playing into the big pull difficulty too. On WHM I tend to use Protect, Swiftcast, Largresse, Lucid Dreaming and Cleric Stance. I try to swap either Cleric or Protect for Esuna when I know I'll need it. I get that Cleric isn't everyone's cup of tea as well, just my two cents