Individual players owning Large Houses for personal use. Yay or nay?

[gbe931]

Hi all, so we're one week after Shirogane housing was released and I'm curious as to your opinion on the above. Should individual players be allowed to own Large houses if they have the gil and are able to do so? Some players believe this is an issue as these individual players are harming Free Companies because they are denied access to these plots and should be stripped of them. Some believe they should be ok with purchasing them as they have the gil and ability to do so.

I definitely see both sides of the argument but I'm in the latter camp. For disclosure I was one of the lucky individuals who were able to buy a plot that I have been saving for since 3.4 on Patch Day and got the only plot I wanted in Shirogane which just happened to be the plot everyone was targeting (plot 30).

Personally I'm looking forward to seeing how SE will tackle the new wards and the systems they will place for purchasing these new homes.

So I'd like to know your opinion on the matter. Thanks

[Vahlnir]

Personally, I don't see the big deal if solo players have mansions. However, I could understand if SE made them FC only...that's a lot of space.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Considering the amount of micro FC's there are now that have never had more than 1-3 active members I don't really see any reason to make large plots FC only.

[Penthea]

I have mixed feelings about this because there are so few mansions in the game. I think a player should be able to live in whatever plot size they like, but there's no doubt that a fc would get better use out of a mansion than an individual.

I would certainly feel better about it if mansions had far more tenancy slots than a cottage. It makes no sense that they're the same.

SE could make mansions less desirable for individual players if they allowed all plots sizes to have three gardening patches. The gardening patches are a huge reason why I wanted a medium instead of a small. I doubt I'm the only one who didn't want a small for that reason.

[Wolftamer]

This game is moving more and more towards small man content. LArge FCs are not only drying up, but if anything content is aimed at reducing them. Let's be honest, you can do everything in this game with an FC of 8 people. A large house also holds no difference than a small for an FC. Personal housing (which is kinda dumb with apartments now) and Company Workshop (whose use is also drying up) are the only things that matter to an FC house and you get them on all sizes.

[Penthea]

This game is moving more and more towards small man content. LArge FCs are not only drying up, but if anything content is aimed at reducing them. Let's be honest, you can do everything in this game with an FC of 8 people.

Where are you getting this from? This is the first I have ever heard about large fcs drying up. If anything the housing system helps some stay big because if they have a house then members have an easy way to get access to some form of personal housing.

Just because you can do everything with eight people doesn't mean fcs will never feel the need to have more than eight people. Players rarely all play at the same time or for the exact same amount of time. For a fc to be lively 99% of the time eight people is far from enough for that. Most people would consider a fc with eight people to either be in its infancy or dead.

A large house also holds no difference than a small for an FC.

Wrong. While any house can have access to the workshop, only large houses can have the maximum amount of gardening patches, vendors and have every crafting station. Crafting stations may only work up to lvl 50 but I can tell you the fc members in my fc use them.

[Wolftamer]

If anything the housing system helps some stay big because if they have a house then members have an easy way to get access to some form of personal housing.

Apartments. Not only easier, but safer too

Just because you can do everything with eight people doesn't mean fcs will never feel the need to have more than eight people.

Point is the content is every day driving away the need for large FCs. Hell, on some of these large FCs getting a slot in the main raid static is a greater challenge than buying a mansion in the game....

and have every crafting station.

Storerooms really negate the worry about crafting stations. Of course getting 50 in a craft should only take you about an hour anyways.

Any why are they not getting power leveled by your higher crafters? Your FC should help it's members more....

[Penthea]

Apartments. Not only easier, but safer too

I know that before Shirogane many servers had no apartments left. That's probably the case again. Or it soon will be.

Point is the content is every day driving away the need for large FCs. Hell, on some of these large FCs getting a slot in the main raid static is a greater challenge than buying a mansion in the game....

What do you mean by every day? The game has been built around 4 and 8 man teams since ARR and it hasn't changed since. Why would fcs be magically getting smaller only now? This sounds like baseless fiction to me.

Storerooms really negate the worry about crafting stations.

Not really unless you plan on having someone online ready to swap them out at a moment's notice. The storeroom helps but it's hardly a fix. Goodness it would be even more awkward to do with vendors, and well it does absolutely zero to help with the gardening patches. You can't store any that have plants in them.

Any why are they not getting power leveled by your higher crafters? Your FC should help it's members more....

Believe it or not most players prefer to play the game themselves. I help fc mates by crafting crafting/gathering gear for them. I enable them to play the game better, not play the game for them.

[HyoMinPark]

Wrong. While any house can have access to the workshop, only large houses can have the maximum amount of gardening patches, vendors and have every crafting station. Crafting stations may only work up to lvl 50 but I can tell you the fc members in my fc use them.

The best way to fix that would be to just remove the limitations on gardening plots and housing NPCs period. They’re completely arbitrary limitations anyways.

I don’t agree with the idea of mansions being FC Only. Housing still needs to be fixed, and desperately. But I don’t think implementing that sort of limitation will do much. Honestly, the number of mansions per ward should be increased. Three per division/subdivision is just not enough.

[Nalette]

I admit, it gets real disheartening to look around the various wards on Balmung and see the amount of mansions being hoarded by individuals who have never taken the time to even make a token attempt to decorate them, and clearly only visit it often enough to beat the reclamation timer when it's active.

There's one in my current ward that stands out like a sore thumb especially, as it's surrounded by active RP FCs and RPers with their personal homes. We'd love to see them evicted so we, or another active RP FC could make actual use of it.

Is it within their right to do that? Yeah, sure. I'm not against individuals owning whatever plots they want. But ffs, please at least do something with it?