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  1. #81
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    I think we're ignoring the biggest aspect of sch. That being Lilly. Her healing is very poor imo. I think what we really need to focus on is a faerie rework if the healing 'pet' class is to survive.
    Fairy balance is tricky because she is part of a team. You can't just say her healing is poor without looking at how Lilly's abilities mesh with the scholar's.

    Would players be happy with their job if they healed and shielded for less in exchange for a stronger fairy? It's a tough question. The only thing for sure is fairy healing will not become so powerful that a scholar could dps 100% of time.

    Thinking about the situation objectively, it is more likely Selene will be reworked because the default pet choice is always Eos. Selene must bring something to the party which will make the choice regarding which pet to bring meaningful.
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  2. #82
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Quote Originally Posted by NobleWinter View Post
    Changing Embrace to an Ability on a 3 sec recast is the only thing Eos needs. The fact your regen disappears when the fairy moves and does battle with Whispering Dawn on the Global Cool Down is really annoying. As an Ability it would be so much more efficient. It could go off immediately before and after Whispering Dawn without the long pause and also couldnt be silenced or pacified. This would make Embrace way more reliable and since it gets incredibly weak end game this wouldnt throw game balance out of control.
    A side effect of that is that it would no longer benefit from things like Defiance, since + healing effects only work on spells.

    It's a subtle, annoying difference.
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  3. #83
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    Kabz Il
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    A side effect of that is that it would no longer benefit from things like Defiance, since + healing effects only work on spells.

    It's a subtle, annoying difference.
    They could make an exception for this though, as a band-aid fix before they hopefully improve on the entire pet system in 5.0. Plenary Indulgence worked as such before it was "fixed".
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  4. #84
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    Winter Gem
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    Embrace is the only Spell Selene has that can take advantage of Rouse so that could be a problem I guess. Im still clueless why our healing fairy doesnt have a group heal on a cool down that lines up with Rouse. I will always fight for Selene to replace Silent Dusk with a Fey Medica to put her par with Eos.
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  5. #85
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    RLofOBFL's Avatar
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    Lala Yuki
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    Selene is deceivingly good, contrary to believe. I recently discovered If you use the rDPS calculator, Fey Wind & Chain combined add more dps than ASTs cards do. I will admit the silence is ridiculously useless though.
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  6. #86
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Chain is very very good, admittedly much more so than I initially gave it credit for on SB's launch.

    The problem with Fey Wind and Selene is that whilst yes, it's extra DPS, you'll typically net more overall by using Rouse/WD to allow the healer(s) to spend additional GCDs DPSing instead of healing. It's a similar trap that NoctAST often falls into =/
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  7. #87
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    Loki Linz
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    Sorry what's the trap that Noct AST often falls into? I'm a bit slow. Thanks
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  8. #88
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Simply put, the group buffs didn't outweigh the raw DPS lost elsewhere for various reasons. In Noct AST's case, losing that constant drip of healing from the fairy put more pressure on both healers to pick up the slack usually with time inefficient GCD heals.

    It's worth noting that even with the Balance nerf, this is less of an issue now than it used to be IMHO.
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