Thread: Scholar since 4.1 patch - how are we finding it?

Originally Posted by Cynfael

As I said before, I agree with the removal of old CS; I also suspect that Excogitation and Fey Union were designed with old CS in mind, for obvious reasons.

I'm not sure about that...one of the reasons why SCH was so op in HW (and ARR as well, but we only had 2 healers back then) was CS and how it didn't affect eos' healing throughput, Giving SCH even more options to keep dpsing while letting ogcd/fairy skills do the healing would've been the perfect recipe to make SCH the undisputed healers' king, and since the devs had known that for a while, I can't imagine them giving SCH such options.

I agree though that Exco would've worked like a charm with the old CS.

Originally Posted by Cynfael

As I said before, I agree with the removal of old CS; I also suspect that Excogitation and Fey Union were designed with old CS in mind, for obvious reasons.

And yes, new CS is borderline garbage considering that it competes with other Role skills and has a fairly weak effect. Outside of AoE, healers aren’t putting out enough DPS that 5% for 15 seconds is proving very impactful.

Agree 100% with this.

One of the ideas ive seen thrown around was Dissapation temporarily upgrading Eos into a reworked Selene that had upgrades effects to some, if not all, of its spells. While i like that idea I can't help but be fascinated with the fact that instead of reworking Dissapation, they fixed other abilities around it to make it more useable. Personally the only thing i can really think of now is either make Dissapation boost aetherflow heals, either via raw potency or additional effects, or allow us to keep building fairy guage during it.

Only thing I want is for Fey Union to have queue priority over everything else Eos casts. Slightly frustrating taking a hit potency-wise by weaving through mia 2 or straight up clipping only to not have the skill go off. Everything else feels on point.

Fey Union takes SOOOOO long to activate. I've had more than one moment where Im wondering if the tank is gonna die before it starts. Dissipation is a really awful skill too. Losing your fairy is just retarded. Dissipation should instantly swap your fairy and make your next Aetherflow Action free of cost. It would be less beneficial to only get one free aether action instead of three stacks but it would be less risky than losing your fairy altogether too. Plus Dissipation could be used when you already have full Aether Stacks and cause no waste. It would be safe to use in an emergency or just for more mileage. It would see a lot more use this way.

I dunno, I think Dissipation earned its place for me in Sohm Ahl (Hard), where there's enough burst damage going out that I need the extra aetherflows more than Embrace.

But then, my SCH play is hardly endgame.

Some of the systems changes around Dissipation have actually made it a better skill since SB launched. Not that it's in any way a well designed part of SCH's kit, but between Embrace's lowered potency making losing it less punishing, Quickened Aetherflow making Disspation effectively lower Aetherflow's CD to 30 sec (turns out it's actually really hard to effectively use 6 stacks in 30 seconds), and Summon's cast time and MP cost being lowered, it's well worth using now.

The struggle to use 6 Aetherflow Stacks in 30 seconds with Dissipation makes the skill horrendous. Its supposed to be an emergency save but requires so much planning its almost impossible to use in a panicked state. I really hate that skill. Why would a pet based class ever have a skill that locks out your pet. Just why?!

Originally Posted by NobleWinter

The struggle to use 6 Aetherflow Stacks in 30 seconds with Dissipation makes the skill horrendous. Its supposed to be an emergency save but requires so much planning its almost impossible to use in a panicked state. I really hate that skill. Why would a pet based class ever have a skill that locks out your pet. Just why?!

To be fair, the pet aspect of both SMN/SCH is underwhelming at best. It's not like losing the Faerie for 30s is devastating when you've actually planned it out. And while it is incredibly niche to use Dissipation for its intended purpose, I'll have to disagree with you there. I have had a few runs saved from using Dissipation, and technically that means it is functioning as it should.

I still think the ability needs a rework, but with other changes as well, I think Dissipation is okay ATM. As for your panicked state, I can only say the more you heal, the less panicked you'll get over time in any situation.