Thread: Scholar since 4.1 patch - how are we finding it?

I enjoyed 4.1 changes.
I haven't been running deltascape savage 3 and 4 just yet ( mostly cause I'm still not so interested in raids ) or the new Bahamut's coil but I'm doing fine in the other instances altough some bad tanks / dps can still give me some issues in 4 men dungeons.

I'd like to see an Eos & Selene rework too and maybe a dissipation one ( Selene doesn't really feel worth using atm, Eos...it's just that damn AI...and dissipation is a good tactical choice sometimes but I'd like it more if it resummoned your pet after the 30 seconds effect like already suggested by some other people cause it can feel kinda punishing and I don't get the point of desummoning your fairy on a pet themed class but w/e ).
What else can I say ? The class feels fine apart for a few details.

One last thing I'd be fixing would be deployment tactics...not everyone uses Eye for an Eye and usually tanks won't wait for you to cast adlo on them and then spread it to the rest of the party.

I would love to see Cleric Stance come back as a toggle for extra damage and reduced healing but instead of the huge stat swap we had previously it could do a less punishing 10% increase to damage with a 10% reduction in healing output. It would make me feel so alive to throw that on and DPS with my Scholar with all the abilities they have now.

I have a difficult time agreeing with the idea that Scholar's new abilities seem to synergize with the old CS for one simple reason, the fact that DPSing is still an mp/gcd investment that takes away from healing, the only difference now is that the punishment is far less harsh. Excog and Fey Union still free up the resources to allow you to invest in damage, the only difference is that you can react more quickly to something going wrong.

Originally Posted by Brandedblade

I have a difficult time agreeing with the idea that Scholar's new abilities seem to synergize with the old CS for one simple reason, the fact that DPSing is still an mp/gcd investment that takes away from healing, the only difference now is that the punishment is far less harsh. Excog and Fey Union still free up the resources to allow you to invest in damage, the only difference is that you can react more quickly to something going wrong.

You kind of contradicted your own point there? The fact that the two moves allow more window for DPS, which is the whole reason SCHs Faerie and the old percentage based Lustrate made it so good in Cleric Stance. Unless I'm misunderstanding something here, it looks like you kind of just explained why Excog/Union would be good with the old CS.

Originally Posted by Kabzy

You kind of contradicted your own point there? The fact that the two moves allow more window for DPS, which is the whole reason SCHs Faerie and the old percentage based Lustrate made it so good in Cleric Stance. Unless I'm misunderstanding something here, it looks like you kind of just explained why Excog/Union would be good with the old CS.

The point I was trying to make was that the same investment away from healing is still there, just without the extra step that could potentially screw yourself over. You aren't casting Physick and Adlo if you're casting Broil and Miasma. The reason I'm not fond of the argument concerning the fact that these abilities are synergistic with cleric stance is the fact the system of taking resources away from healing to dps is still there.

Originally Posted by Brandedblade

The point I was trying to make was that the same investment away from healing is still there, just without the extra step that could potentially screw yourself over. You aren't casting Physick and Adlo if you're casting Broil and Miasma. The reason I'm not fond of the argument concerning the fact that these abilities are synergistic with cleric stance is the fact the system of taking resources away from healing to dps is still there.

I see where you're coming from, and what you say isn't wrong. However, such abilities had even greater value when Cleric Stance involved a 2-GCD lockout and rewarded uptime with a 10% damage increase on top of the stat swap.

Under the current system, even players who aren't paying a great deal of attention to strategy and mechanics can weave DPS at will. It's not that faerie-based healing no longer prolongs DPS uptime; it's that the removal of CS as a stance makes it a little less vital for that purpose than it used to be.

Even if the value is lessened, it's a value that still exists, and I for one am glad that Old CS is gone, it makes the said loop of investing dps vs healing much smoother, I wish new CS was more potent, or at least lined up better with raid cooldowns, but all and all I prefer the mind scaling and the fact that using the fairy to extend your dps uptime is still a thing, even if it's weaker