Thread: Scholar since 4.1 patch - how are we finding it?

Originally Posted by NobleWinter

The only real change for Selene I would like to see is to have her speed buff get reduced from 30 seconds to 15 seconds and have the speed increase changed from 3% to 6%. This would make it so that the Scholar effect on group DPS is exactly the same but you would actually feel it in other classes and also allow it to shine during the small DPS checks in more 4 man dungeons and full party encounters. Having that burst of group power on command would be more exciting then the barely noticeable 3% increase we have now and also line up perfectly with the duration of Chain Strategem.

This would be alright provided Selene was actually good enough to use in Savage content, as it is now she's only there to buff the pt for pre-pull and won't be back for the rest of the fight. The change above would mean having even less time of Fey Wind in effect after pull and will most likely miss out on some of the buffs/debuffs from other pt members during the opener.

Good, the changes are immediately noticeable. Succor doesn't feel like a weak shield and the changes to the summon time make Dissipation as punishing as it once was. I still think Dissipation needs to be reworked as it makes no damn sense in the grand scheme of Scholars kit. But these buffs were definitely a step in the right directions ultimately.

The changes are really good. I had an AST who decided to stay in Nocturnal Stance for the 24 man as my cohealer. The joke was on him though...Succor OVERWROTE his shields every time. Feels good man.

Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom

On an opposite note, before the patch I had a spread adlo be completely over written by ast using his aoe shield before a pull. Felt bad man.

Edit: realized they can still do this.

Edit2: I do not know how you overwrote anything with succor because it's still the worst potency shield. You must have severely out geared him or something.

Unless something changed that I missed, Galvanize and Nocturnal Field effects automatically overwrite each other regardless of potency.

Originally Posted by Cynfael

Unless something changed that I missed, Galvanize and Nocturnal Field effects automatically overwrite each other regardless of potency.

That's a troubling design choice in its own right then.

Edit: Anyone confirm this?

Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom

That's a troubling design choice in its own right then.

Edit: Anyone confirm this?

This is the case. It wasn't a design choice as much of a punishment that they never went back to consider. There was some shinanigans of people stacking various shields so certain classes like BLM could ignore mechanics and just stay where they were. I don't think they ever thought more about it when they wrote the whole 'the overwrite each other' thingy after that.

Originally Posted by Cynfael

Unless something changed that I missed, Galvanize and Nocturnal Field effects automatically overwrite each other regardless of potency.

^ This. Also, I think the only time Galvanize would overwrite Galvenize is when it exceeds the remaining HP on the existing shield. I do believe any Nocturnal Field would overwrite any other Nocturnal Field regardless of the HP on the shield.

Originally Posted by Ghishlain

^ This. Also, I think the only time Galvanize would overwrite Galvenize is when it exceeds the remaining HP on the existing shield.

Galvanize and Nocturnal Field both work this way; the oddity is that Galvanize and Nocturnal Field overwrite each other without checking the value of the existing barrier, and I think it's been like this since AST was introduced.