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    Thoosa Starburst
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    Black Mage Lv 90

    Astrologian struggles

    Hi

    I have previously levelled a White Mage and Scholar to 70 and am currently levelling an Astro but having problems with it:

    I’ve tried several runs of Aurum Vale and am finding it hard to keep people’s health up. It feels like the healing power is much less than White Mage and even not as strong as Scholar with its shields. I also seem to run out of mana faster. Does it get easier or stronger as you level up?

    Also it feels like the Astro deals much less damage than the other healers which may make healing tougher I guess as things take longer to die. Does it get better later on damage wise? I’ve not noticed any strong aoe like Holy, assize or miasma 2. Does Astro get anything later like asylum or the scholar version?

    Thanks!
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    Hades Pluto
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Well before I say anything else, you do have diurnal on right? ( literally seen a few people at seventy who have no idea what that is so just want to get that out of the way first) also Mana wise Ast is really good with mp regen at lv60 to 70, it's one of the best imo. But yea Ast shouldn't have a problem healing those dungeons tbh.
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    Yep, I have diurnal on and I’m level 47.

    It’s strange, the Astro’s cure and cure 2 equivalent (don’t remember the spell names!) seems to take longer to take effect after casting, so the tank seems to die more often because the heal doesn’t “kick in” fast enough, compared to the other healers, if you see what I mean
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    Hades Pluto
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    Summoner Lv 80
    O, the thing is at that lv it's iffy but like at 60 and up Ast is faster than whm in my opinion, Ast end game really shines, it's ability to increase the duration of a buff for others and they're self is OP, level 70 Ast has 8 k regen for 40 seconds
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    Titania Yaerem
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    WHM has 50 more potency than Benefic, Benefic 2, and Physick so an AST & SCH will have weaker heals than a WHM. Noct and SCH AoE shield are pretty much the same, their big difference is the power of aspected bene and crit adlo. If you feel like your heals aren't strong enough the you could try leveling as Noct to get the extra 15% boost to healing potency while in Noct stance. AST is more of a versatile utility healer so they can assume the shield healer or the throughput healer but they won't be king of it like their healer counterparts.
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    Purple Rain
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    AST is really underwhelming before levels 60+, and especially under level 52 and Gravity. Use your cards as well as you can (feel free to Bole your tank if the damage seems high), use Essential Dignity as often as possible (and not too early), and use Largesse + Lightspeed healing to get out of a bad situation. You don't have Gravity yet, but you do have two DoTs and Malefic to cast on things whenever you can.

    Edit: Keep your gear up to date and if you're struggling, check if the tank's gear is up to date... I've seen tanks with level 20 pieces in Aurum Vale.
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    Last edited by Taika; 10-16-2017 at 08:08 PM.

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    Chaosgrimm Winsock
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    There is a difference, but not so much that it should be giving you a hard time across the board. How is your gear? AST doesn't get lvl 45 artifact gear from a class quest. Give your gear an update and reattempt.
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    Hmm I think it’s in the level 41 range.
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    Diantha Sunstone
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Upgrade that gear. That will help.

    Aurum Vale is a big heal check. It rolls out damage hard, and the other players have to watch the different poison stacks themselves and eat fruit accordingly, are they start melting. If they wait too long, there isn't much you can do.

    AST at that level is very underwhelming DPS wise. Card use should make up the difference with the party.

    You get two very useful AoE skills later, Gravity (which is similar to Holy) and a unique spell called Earthly Star (you drop it like a zone on the ground, but as the clock ticks it gains power. When you set it off or let the timer finish, it has a huge burst of enemy damage and party healing on anything thing in the zone.) At level 70, AST does perfectly fine with doing damage amoung the three healers.

    Honestly, other than your gear needing an upgrade, I can't see anything wrong other than AST is meh at that level and Aurum Vale can be painful.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TitaniaYaerem View Post
    WHM has 50 more potency than Benefic, Benefic 2, and Physick so an AST & SCH will have weaker heals than a WHM. Noct and SCH AoE shield are pretty much the same, their big difference is the power of aspected bene and crit adlo. If you feel like your heals aren't strong enough the you could try leveling as Noct to get the extra 15% boost to healing potency while in Noct stance. AST is more of a versatile utility healer so they can assume the shield healer or the throughput healer but they won't be king of it like their healer counterparts.
    Diurnal Benefic: 440
    Nocturnal Benefic: 460

    Diurnal Benefic II: 715
    Nocturnal Benefic II: 748

    AST is on par or better than WHM with respect to benefic and benefic II...
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