So far the new 24 man..

[BillyKaplan]

I agree about the no motivation to run it. I used to farm the heck out of Weeping for the caster and healer sets because they looked FINE. There is nothing aesthetically pleasing about these sets for me so after I get my weekly item I'll only go in there if friends need help with their weekly runs.

[Remedi]

They looked fine and the chest was a valid alternative if you couldn't get your hands on A8s

[Mature]

So far the raid has been amazing for me . It's not easy at all and you do need some sort of coordination with the team. The raid it self is challenging which is great!

The only negative is the gear. I did expect more from Matsuno. But it is what it is. Just hope next tier is either same difficulty or even harder.

Please DO NOT NERF.

[Zojha]

Mhm, I personally was lucky with my first group, I seemed to be the only derp that didn't know the mechanics already and we only wiped to the last boss once. Most of the mechanics seemed easy enough to learn, though intuitively, I'd have tried to STAND on the dark circles, rather than interact them, which felt weird.
The last boss was... a bit of a mess. It helped when I was told that blue timer means Do and purple means Don't, but then you also have Lying in the mix, which creates a double negation that just makes me want to flip the finger at the boss, because you're essentially arguing semantics with the boss. And then he flips me the index finger with that cursor >_>

It's definitely a one-and-done deal for me and I'm glad there's not much of a carrot to make me put up with it either.

[Taika]

I only did this once. To me it seemed easier than the previous few 24 person raids, since our alliance cleared on first timer on the patch day (don't think we had any more than 1 wipe on some bosses). I was mostly disappointed with the lack of difficulty (I miss Weeping City and Ozma!), but the fights didn't seem very interesting either. Will have to see how I'll feel about it after reset.

[Maero]

I honestly love the new dungeon but going in with certain people makes it rather miserable.
Last week when we finally did clear i had such a huge headache, lol

[Remedi]

Personally I love the waterway segment even thought nothing really happens, I kinda wish they'll evolve this concept as it makes interesting the exploring part of the place

[Karathix]

Personally I love the waterway segment even thought nothing really happens, I kinda wish they'll evolve this concept as it makes interesting the exploring part of the place

i kinda love it *because* nothing really happens. Adds a bit to the 'raid' feel imo, makes the place seem bigger and more epic to me. Would be cool to see some puzzles in those segments though imo.

[Remedi]

i kinda love it *because* nothing really happens. Adds a bit to the 'raid' feel imo, makes the place seem bigger and more epic to me. Would be cool to see some puzzles in those segments though imo.

Ye my thoughts exacty, sadly I've heard ppl hating on it because there's nothing.....oh well

[ShadowHunterrX]

The raid is fun and did it with my FC 1 hour after release. People were already crying about wipes. The funny part they die the most and after they left , it went faster and cleared it.

It's a problem with some people. They think they are great... and trying to destroy the mood.