Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
There are instances to where you can actually use Manip II in the Flawless Synth phase and recover all, if not most of your CP, and if all of it is recovered, plus an additional one in the quality build phase, then I've had instances where I could in fact use Byregot's Miracle, then build some more stacks, and go for a Blessing, but saying that is like asking for luck of the gods somewhat. I never really had it fixed to a 'standard' rotation at that point, just depended on the procs I got and the CP I had, but I'm personally skipping Maker's Mark entirely now.

It's great, extremely powerful even, but I don't want to spend an entire expansion doing Maker's Mark
Right, I now favor the use of SH II, PBPx3, and then Patient Touch... this way, durab goes down to 30, and I can easily use Manip2 during the FS spam phase. The Patient Touch, if succeeded then wonderful. If not, then I can try it 1 more time before the SH II ends. Either way, there will be enough durab consumption at that point to use Manip2. Then there will be plenty of room for ToT during Maker's Mark.

Quote Originally Posted by Ostwar View Post
Although I have tried ManII to recover duro, I find that sometimes I get shafted by RNG on recovering full CP. I have had more luck with Whistle right after SH1 falls off on the post PBP stage. It costs less CP to start and recovers a ton more CP if red balls (good conditions ) proc. If I get the 6 required red balls to drop whistle stacks to 2, then I Nimeas Wheel for the 30 duro I need and if that fails I can usually run a MM1 to get the 30 duro and still have time to recover enough CP to get back to full.
Oh that is an interesting approach you got there. Yeah, Whistle could be a nice choice if you expect CP to hit near max soon.