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    AvalonBright's Avatar
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    Square: You need to open servers before this community is slowly choked

    Just as the title says. Square, you have got to upgrade your servers if they can't handle the amount of players on larger communities, or you are going to slowly choke the life out of this game's biggest groups.

    This is not conjecture, this is fact. If you quarantine a community and seal it away it is eventually going to die. People cannot invite anyone, new blood will never find their way there, people will slowly quit because they ALWAYS slowly quit, and there will never be anyone to replace them.

    Guilds will stagnate, raid groups will trickle off, and the community will eventually die. And this is exactly what you are complicit in by refusing to upgrade or even open servers and just let us deal with queue times. I think MANY players on locked servers would rather deal with occasional queues than see the slow death approaching our communities.

    For weeks now I have seen Balmung FC leaders and group leaders fret over the lack of recruitment lately, slowness of events on Balmung, noticeable lack of attendance to events, etc. Members talk more frequently about their Mateus alts and such, furthering the lack of activity.

    I have been a member of Balmung since day one, and I originally bought my last PC solely to have something capable of running 1.0. I occasionally buy cash shop glam items and I have several Recruit a Friend programs in cycle. My sub has not lapsed once. I am as loyal and devoted a player as you will find, but the silence and treatment large servers are getting is worrying me.

    I have not truly enjoyed an MMO since the Wrath era of WoW, over nine years ago. I do not want to see what's become my home turn into a shell of its former self and simply be left to collapse inward because its own developers are too stubborn to see what game has been keeping them in the black for years and give them the funding and resource they deserve.

    Square, mark my words: Find a way to open these servers before it's too late, or the only people you'll have to blame when your largest groups of players disperse is yourself. YOU are killing your own game more than anything else right now.
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    Its not necessarily a server issue, but a network one. You've seen people mass DC during Odin? Thats not because the servers can't handle it, thats because player machines can't handle the amount of players in the area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Its not necessarily a server issue, but a network one. You've seen people mass DC during Odin? Thats not because the servers can't handle it, thats because player machines can't handle the amount of players in the area.
    Strange how People get 90002 Error at the same time then, eh?
    Framerate Issues won't Disconnect you, atleast not if you have 20-30 Frames due of a crowd.

    Simply said a Zone can handle only a amount of Players and Monsters, if that Limit exceeds you can kiss 1/4 of those Player Connections Goodbye.
    (Hence we had multiple Instances of Zones at the start of Stormblood, because of the amount of Players basically overfilling a single Zone)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mwynn View Post
    Strange how People get 90002 Error at the same time then, eh?
    Framerate Issues won't Disconnect you, atleast not if you have 20-30 Frames due of a crowd.

    Simply said a Zone can handle only a amount of Players and Monsters, if that Limit exceeds you can kiss 1/4 of those Player Connections Goodbye.
    I've never DC'd in a mass crowd, while i've seen people DC just loading into certain zones. Said people no longer had issues after upgrading to new pc's. Its definitely a localized issue in most cases, and not the servers. They are probably limiting the number of people (and they ahve said this) to prevent degraded gameplay experiences due to number of people. Balmung is overfull. Move off of the server if you want new blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I've never DC'd in a mass crowd, while i've seen people DC just loading into certain zones. Said people no longer had issues after upgrading to new pc's. Its definitely a localized issue in most cases, and not the servers. They are probably limiting the number of people (and they ahve said this) to prevent degraded gameplay experiences due to number of people. Balmung is overfull. Move off of the server if you want new blood.
    Ixion wants to tell you something then. Even these Days if you attempt to do Ixion you get Disconnected 2-3 Times and you see the entire Mass having the Disconnecting Icon next to their Names.
    (I'm not on Balmung, so no Reason to tell me to move)
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    Player machines? Pretty sure when Stormblood came out and everyone got to The Lochs and Ixion was discovered, that wasn't player machines. That was the massive amount of people, chocobo, and pets all in one spot making the zone itself crash and burn and everyone went down with the ship. That's one example of client side not being the issue and there's plenty of other zone breaks in the past from sheer influx and activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mwynn View Post
    Ixion wants to tell you something then. Even these Days if you attempt to do Ixion you get Disconnected 2-3 Times and you see the entire Mass having the Disconnecting Icon next to their Names.
    (I'm not on Balmung, so no Reason to tell me to move)
    I've never DC'd during Ixion, I barely even lag. The comment about moving off is directed at those who think Balmung should remain open.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sekkei View Post
    Player machines? Pretty sure when Stormblood came out and everyone got to The Lochs and Ixion was discovered, that wasn't player machines. That was the massive amount of people, chocobo, and pets all in one spot making the zone itself crash and burn and everyone went down with the ship. That's one example of client side not being the issue and there's plenty of other zone breaks in the past from sheer influx and activity.
    The instances were limited on number of people to prevent them from crashing, and that is also why they added extra ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The instances were limited on number of people to prevent them from crashing, and that is also why they added extra ones.
    You won't crash, simple.

    Your Client will display only a set number of Players. Most likely 40 (Heck you can even set it in the Settings) so you shouldnt crash at all.
    It is under "Others --> Character/Objects"

    Crashing and Disconnecting are two different subjects, one throws you completely out of the Game, the other simply puts you back to the Menu Screen.

    Weak PC Systems, ya ... not in 2017...

    A i7-4790K CPU + 1060 GTX + 8 GB / 16 GB RAM should be Overkill for this ... simply built Game.
    unless you run at 4K with Ultra-Realistic Settings on Reshade... thats another Story tho, heh..
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    The stagnation on Balmung existed before the server was completely locked down. It's a direct consequence of people encouraging as many players as possible to flock to the server despite it being obvious what the complications would be.

    Mateus and Omega exist as alternatives for those seeking role-play. The latter is, however, currently locked down as well. There's also pockets of role-players scattered across other servers.

    The argument that people cannot play with their friends is a bit deceptive - because they can, they just aren't willing to compromise and find another server or just invest in an alt. Additional cross server features are set to be added over time and we've already seen some implemented already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mwynn View Post
    You won't crash, simple.

    Your Client will display only a set number of Players. Most likely 40 (Heck you can even set it in the Settings) so you shouldnt crash at all.
    It is under "Others --> Character/Objects"

    Crashing and Disconnecting are two different subjects, one throws you completely out of the Game, the other simply puts you back to the Menu Screen.

    Weak PC Systems, ya ... not in 2017...

    A i7-4790K CPU + 1060 GTX + 8 GB / 16 GB RAM should be Overkill for this ... simply built Game.
    unless you run at 4K with Ultra-Realistic Settings on Reshade... thats another Story tho, heh..
    Most people play with standard pentiums or AMD a5 APU's, lol. The minority has gaming rigs like that, and I am included int he minority. I have a 4770k and a GTX980ti, hence me never having issues when lots of people are on screen or during Odin and Ixion.
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