Why So Much Rape in Stormblood

[PharisHanasaki]

let's start with the fact that there are NO depictions of rape in game just characters talking about tragic events... and if you want to bring in male rape and child molestation in an attempt at making it more real then we may already have it in its real form... the sad fact is that most men will never tell anyone if they are sexually assaulted because male victims are treated totally different than females... children often don't open up about it til adulthood unless coaxed to explain certain behavior...

You got it like I was the one bringing realism and immersion. People are saying they find the depictions of rape in game to help make it more immersive.

And please excuse me for using wrong words? English is not my first language.

[Enla]

He didn't even say his mother was raped, he said the soldier went for her, maybe they got together and broke up? maybe they had a fling but in doing so had a child she didnt want with a man of his blood, who knows, the thoughts were put upon the reader to guess without implying which it was. For the OP, it was rape, for me it was love gone wrong. I should we address what happened in Vietnam?

Thing is here that context is important. In the lore it's pretty clear that many Ala Mhigans were raped in the sacking of their country by Garlemald and that many in Fordola's generation are the product of it. You can chose to believe it's a case of love gone wrong, but given the other instances and the what his mother did to him it's pretty clear to me that his birth was of a more insidious nature.

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This person collects lore to help the RP community, including transcribing every bit of dialogue they find. These are the posts pertaining to Ala Mhigo, including straight NPC dialogue, and let's just say it's not pretty. (All of this was compiled pre-SB as well.)

Glaumunt: “When Ala Mhigo fell, they put my family in a camp. Bein’ a lad, I was made to do hard labor, while my mother an’ sister were made to do far worse… They hid their sufferin’ from me as best they could, but I knew, an’ the thought of it drove me mad. We had to escape. An’ so I hatched a plan to get us out o’ the city. We were pickin’ our way around a gorge not far outside the walls when they caught up with us… An’ rather than allow ‘emselves to be taken again, my mother an’ sister leaped over the edge before my very eyes. Heartbroken as I was, I didn’t put up a fight when the imperials clapped me in chains an’ dragged me back.”

[Rokke]

He didn't even say his mother was raped, he said the soldier went for her, maybe they got together and broke up? maybe they had a fling but in doing so had a child she didnt want with a man of his blood, who knows, the thoughts were put upon the reader to guess without implying which it was. For the OP, it was rape, for me it was love gone wrong. I should we address what happened in Vietnam?

If you speak to npcs in the waking sands throughout 2.0 they tell you a garlean forced himself on Arenvald's mother.

[Texa]

I have to agree with you. We often see the disastrous affects that rape has on female victims in the media, but not so with men.

The only video game that I know of that even tried to approach that issue from the male perspective was Dragon Age 2 with Fenris who was a slave and heavily implied to have been sexually abused. Never outright stated, but it could definitely be assumed.

[Pinkie_Pie]

If you speak to npcs in the waking sands throughout 2.0 they tell you a garlean forced himself on Arenvald's mother.

Ah. Nevermind, never saw that dialogue.

[Pinkie_Pie]

Thing is here that context is important. In the lore it's pretty clear that many Ala Mhigans were raped in the sacking of their country by Garlemald and that many in Fordola's generation are the product of it. You can chose to believe it's a case of love gone wrong, but given the other instances and the what his mother did to him it's pretty clear to me that his birth was of a more insidious nature.


This person collects lore to help the RP community, including transcribing every bit of dialogue they find. These are the posts pertaining to Ala Mhigo, including straight NPC dialogue, and let's just say it's not pretty. (All of this was compiled pre-SB as well.)

War. War never changes.

[Ametrine]

"Why"?

Because the writer wanted to make the audience stop sympathizing with the Garleans.

This is the most straight and honest answer you'll get.

This is it though.

I never wrapped my head around the people who could gloss over Garlean atrocities from facts like "they have amazing technology that could make everyone's live better!" to "The aesthetic is amazing!"

When these kinds of revolting crimes against humanity were always there. Apparently forced takeovers, enslavement, and genocide aren't that bad if it means we get microwaves. :/

[Crysten]

"Rape happens in the real world"

yeah, no shit. i've been sexually abused. a lot of people i know have as well. maybe a woman who has been sexually abused doesn't want something like that treated as some cliche plot device you tack onto any woman's backstory to make her more tragic. maybe i want something so awful and that affects me and many others to be handled with some degree of tact and care.

but hey if all you all love rape in your stories so much lets just have it happen to men too.

we can find out raubhan's tragic backstory where he was raped by an uldah noble.

and meet a cool new character who was forced into sex work against his will.

why not? if rape is such an important part of showing this Grim Dark World we'll just have it happen to the men just as much.

You honestly might want to see a professional, as it cannot be healthy if you're letting the experience define you like this.

The story paints it as one of many reasons for us to hate the antagonists, along with murder, slavery, poverty and all that other good stuff. I'm sorry you don't want to see this, but that's what age ratings/PEGI/the ESRB are for and the way the game has been in terms of tone since ARR. Funny story; while getting my lore book signed by Koji at Fanfest he actually said to me (probably jokingly) that all new hires to the localization team are forced to read/watch GoT if they haven't already, so of course there's inspiration there.

Also, as someone who has been sexually abused in the past, I would think you'd know better than to make light of male rape when men can be, and very much are, victims of both domestic and sexual abuse (even though it is definitely skewed in one direction). Men often have just as much, if not more difficulty in dealing with it due to the additional social pressure because of gender roles and the idea of being ridiculed for being raped by a woman.

Using this as an argument to convince people to not put implied rape in a game is absurd, and awfully sexist. If anything, I agree with you. At least then we could say it's being gender equal!

[CosmicKirby]

I have to agree with you. We often see the disastrous affects that rape has on female victims in the media, but not so with men. FFXIV could really make an impact if it went ahead with portraying such a story with a male victim. Raubahn may make sense for this- he's a traditional masculine male, and male victims often feel very emasculated when they go through that sort of trauma. I don't know, I just think it may help people see and understand what some men have been through, and do go through, rather than just being an edgy prison joke.

At that point Raubahn just needs a bigger sword and a robotic arm.

[Elfidan]

At that point Raubahn just needs a bigger sword and a robotic arm.

It's good to know I'm not the only one that's been waiting for his magitech arm so he could complete his journey to Berserk reference status.