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    PondHollow's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    "Rape happens in the real world"

    but hey if all you all love rape in your stories so much lets just have it happen to men too.

    we can find out raubhan's tragic backstory where he was raped by an uldah noble.

    and meet a cool new character who was forced into sex work against his will.

    why not? if rape is such an important part of showing this Grim Dark World we'll just have it happen to the men just as much.
    You probably didn't intend this reaction, but I absolutely would want that. Especially the Raubahn part. Seeing a major character crumble from PTSD and then get blamed for it and abandoned by their own friends would be superbly emotional. I just want to feel something. Plus, it would help the plot get more complex if rape is used a device to cause a defection to the Garleans.
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    Crysten's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimmy_Dee View Post
    "Rape happens in the real world"

    yeah, no shit. i've been sexually abused. a lot of people i know have as well. maybe a woman who has been sexually abused doesn't want something like that treated as some cliche plot device you tack onto any woman's backstory to make her more tragic. maybe i want something so awful and that affects me and many others to be handled with some degree of tact and care.

    but hey if all you all love rape in your stories so much lets just have it happen to men too.

    we can find out raubhan's tragic backstory where he was raped by an uldah noble.

    and meet a cool new character who was forced into sex work against his will.

    why not? if rape is such an important part of showing this Grim Dark World we'll just have it happen to the men just as much.
    You honestly might want to see a professional, as it cannot be healthy if you're letting the experience define you like this.

    The story paints it as one of many reasons for us to hate the antagonists, along with murder, slavery, poverty and all that other good stuff. I'm sorry you don't want to see this, but that's what age ratings/PEGI/the ESRB are for and the way the game has been in terms of tone since ARR. Funny story; while getting my lore book signed by Koji at Fanfest he actually said to me (probably jokingly) that all new hires to the localization team are forced to read/watch GoT if they haven't already, so of course there's inspiration there.

    Also, as someone who has been sexually abused in the past, I would think you'd know better than to make light of male rape when men can be, and very much are, victims of both domestic and sexual abuse (even though it is definitely skewed in one direction). Men often have just as much, if not more difficulty in dealing with it due to the additional social pressure because of gender roles and the idea of being ridiculed for being raped by a woman.

    Using this as an argument to convince people to not put implied rape in a game is absurd, and awfully sexist. If anything, I agree with you. At least then we could say it's being gender equal!
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    Last edited by Crysten; 10-16-2017 at 05:55 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

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    I agree with you crysten this person needs to seek professional help. I've also been a victim of sexual abuse but I would never speak with so much hate and anger in my heart nor make light of being sexually abused regardless of gender it can happen to both men and women , some women hate men so much based on certain experiences that they tend to forget that and blame all men based on the actions of few . not all people are the same treat everyone as individuals. for anyone who needs to hear this YOU ARE NOT A VICTIM FOR SHARING YOUR STORY. YOU ARE A SURVIVOR SETTING THE WORLD ON FIRE WITH YOUR TRUTH. AND YOU NEVER KNOW WHO NEEDS YOUR LIGHT, YOUR WARMTH AND RAGING COURAGE. repeat with me I AM NOT WHAT HAPPENED TO ME I AM WHAT I CHOOSE TO BECOME.

    -Blessed be


    Quote Originally Posted by Crysten View Post
    You honestly might want to see a professional, as it cannot be healthy if you're letting the experience define you like this.

    The story paints it as one of many reasons for us to hate the antagonists, along with murder, slavery, poverty and all that other good stuff. I'm sorry you don't want to see this, but that's what age ratings/PEGI/the ESRB are for and the way the game has been in terms of tone since ARR. Funny story; while getting my lore book signed by Koji at Fanfest he actually said to me (probably jokingly) that all new hires to the localization team are forced to read/watch GoT if they haven't already, so of course there's inspiration there.

    Also, as someone who has been sexually abused in the past, I would think you'd know better than to make light of male rape when men can be, and very much are, victims of both domestic and sexual abuse (even though it is definitely skewed in one direction). Men often have just as much, if not more difficulty in dealing with it due to the additional social pressure because of gender roles and the idea of being ridiculed for being raped by a woman.

    Using this as an argument to convince people to not put implied rape in a game is absurd, and awfully sexist. If anything, I agree with you. At least then we could say it's being gender equal!
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